From: lnxg33k <lnxg33k@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:10:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4697F83C.6080406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184355462.8347.49.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org>
I'm (obviously) not a dev but contribute some from time to time. Not much more
can be said than has already been stated, but since (I believe) this thread
started out asking for input, I just wanted to toss in a negative vote.
Essentially I don't see it solving any problem and stepping on the toes of
current changes (-project for instance). As of late, it seems more traffic has
been generated due to non-development threads such as this than any other topic
-- take that as you will.
As for some very brief points, I have a few:
* Whether it's intented or not, the negative perception being projected on
non-devs will be there. Call it what you will, but essentially they'll be
outsiders.
* This original thread seems to be an attempt to lessen damaging posts to -dev
and yet does not address the possibility that these posts may come from current
devs. Chris Gianelloni seems to have modified the thread to include dev
moderation with the possibility of delays being applied to them via policy.
* While no delay duration has been set, I think one of the problems here
(again) is perception. Currently it's the idea of quick feedback from the source.
* This sounds like a boring, mundane, time consuming task to place on all
developers. As with most things, only a few will take the time to do their duty
as per policy dictates. This either means we'll have developer-devs doing paper
work or non-developer-devs in a developer position doing paper work -- an
overly simplistic view.
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Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-12 20:24 [gentoo-dev] ML changes Mike Doty
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-13 1:54 ` Kumba
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-07-12 20:59 ` Dale
2007-07-12 21:02 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:11 ` Tom Wesley
2007-07-12 23:05 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 6:31 ` Andrew Cowie
2007-07-12 20:43 ` Jim Ramsay
2007-07-12 20:48 ` Mike Doty
2007-07-12 21:01 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Josh Sled
2007-07-12 20:55 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:02 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2007-07-12 21:32 ` Luca Barbato
2007-07-12 23:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 21:37 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-12 22:03 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:10 ` Denis Dupeyron
[not found] ` <1184280935.29731.11.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com>
2007-07-12 23:43 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:21 ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2007-07-12 22:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 22:28 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-12 22:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-12 23:57 ` Steve Long
2007-07-12 22:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 22:52 ` Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 23:17 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 0:17 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-07-13 0:56 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-14 2:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 7:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Togge
2007-07-12 22:46 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 22:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2007-07-12 23:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-12 22:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Kelly
2007-07-12 23:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 0:50 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-13 1:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:11 ` Duncan
2007-07-17 11:20 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 1:52 ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 3:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:22 ` Duncan
2007-07-13 15:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:24 ` Joe Peterson
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 1:59 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 2:30 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 3:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 3:13 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 4:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 6:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 18:14 ` Roy Bamford
2007-07-13 6:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 6:49 ` Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 7:11 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-13 14:14 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 14:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 14:39 ` Roy Marples
2007-07-13 15:08 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:34 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Vieri Di Paola
2007-07-13 18:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-13 17:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 18:28 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:41 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-14 3:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 15:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jim Ramsay
2007-07-13 18:53 ` Chris Scullard
2007-07-13 19:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 19:59 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:10 ` lnxg33k [this message]
2007-07-13 17:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-14 0:13 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-14 2:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-07-14 3:34 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-14 4:51 ` Kumba
2007-07-14 19:14 ` Ferris McCormick
2007-07-17 11:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 17:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 18:04 ` darren kirby
2007-07-13 18:44 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 18:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 19:04 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 10:20 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-14 17:25 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 7:54 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-15 11:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-13 12:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-13 13:21 ` Grant Goodyear
2007-07-13 19:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:00 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 23:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Luca Barbato
2007-07-13 23:54 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-14 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Ken
2007-07-14 5:36 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-14 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-14 17:43 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 20:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-14 21:07 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 3:54 ` [gentoo-dev] ML changes Daniel Drake
2007-07-15 10:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 23:13 ` Kumba
2007-07-16 9:03 ` Duncan
2007-07-16 16:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 21:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthias Langer
2007-07-15 22:21 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 3:14 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 22:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 22:30 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:09 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-17 1:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-17 1:34 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 6:18 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 11:45 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-07-16 12:42 ` Michael Cummings
2007-07-16 13:15 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-16 13:47 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 15:00 ` Richard Freeman
2007-07-16 17:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 13:46 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 16:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 17:21 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-16 12:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:17 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 23:37 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:11 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 23:27 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 12:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 13:29 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-16 17:45 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 17:49 ` Jakub Moc
2007-07-16 20:55 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-16 22:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 18:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " George Prowse
2007-07-16 18:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-17 0:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 20:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Weller
2007-07-16 20:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 0:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 22:22 ` Torsten Veller
2007-07-16 22:27 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-17 7:33 ` Wernfried Haas
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-13 19:10 [gentoo-dev] " Christina Fullam
2007-07-14 21:03 Christina Fullam
2007-07-15 2:23 ` Dawid Węgliński
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