[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

[Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>]

"Thomas Tuttle" <gentoo@ttuttle.net> posted
1184604111.15155.1200413171@webmail.messagingengine.com, excerpted below,
on  Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:51 -0400:

> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:54:44 -0400, "Daniel Drake" <dsd@gentoo.org>
> said:
>> I do like the "gentoo-politics" idea that came up a few weeks ago,
>> which was to move politics off gentoo-dev and to another list, but I'd
>> view it from another perspective (and avoid the words 'politics'): make
>> gentoo-dev for development topics only, and have another list for the
>> rest. But, I suspect we'd come back to the same problem on both lists,
>> where some people are too keen to talk and deviate too far away from
>> technical discussion.
> 
> On IRC, when a conversation wanders offtopic, one of the ops just nudges
> the participants and says "hey, you should move your conversation to
> #gentoo-foo" (or "##foo" or whatever).  Wouldn't it be easy enough for
> someone to do that here?  It'd be pretty easy to specify what's on- and
> off-topic for each list, and it would be friendlier than moderation,
> just like it's friendlier for IRC ops to ask you nicely to switch
> channels than to simply kick you out.

That's what I'm hoping/praying/fingering-the-rosary will happen when 
-project gets off the ground (and we now have a declaration of intent 
from infra, and still no direct opposition to /just/ adding the list, 
that I've seen).

The frustration I've had and I expect others have had as well, is that 
currently there's no really appropriate place to push folks to.  When 
project gets up and running, that'll change, and I'm REALLY hoping 
there'll be overwhelming buy-in from everyone into /doing/ that nudging.  
I know I'd not have an objection if told a post of mine belonged there, 
particularly if it was obvious anyone else, devs or not, would get the 
same treatment for a similar post.  Just now, there's nowhere to go, so 
I'd consider an objection legitimate -- and have in fact made a couple 
such objections in the past.

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