From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:17:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1184624277.7942.19.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469B666C.2000400@klever.net>
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On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 14:37 +0200, Michael Krelin wrote:
> >
> > That was my thought as well. We (the developers) owe nothing to the
> > community at large. We are volunteers, and if we want to treat Gentoo as
> > our own personal toy (which we currently aren't), then so be it.
> >
>
> Of course Gentoo owes to the community a lot. A lot of its progress,
> progress of the applications included, etc. But it's not a matter of
> obligation. Being nice to others is a nice thing to do and a way to look
> better too. The opposite is... well, the opposite.
Well said...
Remember that if we really didn't give a crap about the community, we
wouldn't be writing open source software. If we didn't care about the
users, we wouldn't release our software to them. We wouldn't have a bug
tracker, forums, and all the other things that we do and maintain solely
for the community.
To phrase it in another manner that might make more sense, any given
developer is going to be more interested in fixing/changing what is
important or interesting to them than what some group of users wants
them to fix/change.
--
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation
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Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-12 20:24 [gentoo-dev] ML changes Mike Doty
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-13 1:54 ` Kumba
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-07-12 20:59 ` Dale
2007-07-12 21:02 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:11 ` Tom Wesley
2007-07-12 23:05 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 6:31 ` Andrew Cowie
2007-07-12 20:43 ` Jim Ramsay
2007-07-12 20:48 ` Mike Doty
2007-07-12 21:01 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Josh Sled
2007-07-12 20:55 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:02 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2007-07-12 21:32 ` Luca Barbato
2007-07-12 23:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 21:37 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-12 22:03 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:10 ` Denis Dupeyron
[not found] ` <1184280935.29731.11.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com>
2007-07-12 23:43 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:21 ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2007-07-12 22:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 22:28 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-12 22:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-12 23:57 ` Steve Long
2007-07-12 22:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 22:52 ` Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 23:17 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 0:17 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-07-13 0:56 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-14 2:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 7:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Togge
2007-07-12 22:46 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 22:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2007-07-12 23:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-12 22:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Kelly
2007-07-12 23:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 0:50 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-13 1:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:11 ` Duncan
2007-07-17 11:20 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 1:52 ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 3:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:22 ` Duncan
2007-07-13 15:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:24 ` Joe Peterson
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 1:59 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 2:30 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 3:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 3:13 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 4:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 6:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 18:14 ` Roy Bamford
2007-07-13 6:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 6:49 ` Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 7:11 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-13 14:14 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 14:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 14:39 ` Roy Marples
2007-07-13 15:08 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:34 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Vieri Di Paola
2007-07-13 18:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-13 17:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 18:28 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:41 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-14 3:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 15:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jim Ramsay
2007-07-13 18:53 ` Chris Scullard
2007-07-13 19:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 19:59 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:10 ` lnxg33k
2007-07-13 17:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-14 0:13 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-14 2:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-07-14 3:34 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-14 4:51 ` Kumba
2007-07-14 19:14 ` Ferris McCormick
2007-07-17 11:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 17:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 18:04 ` darren kirby
2007-07-13 18:44 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 18:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 19:04 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 10:20 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-14 17:25 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 7:54 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-15 11:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-13 12:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-13 13:21 ` Grant Goodyear
2007-07-13 19:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:00 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 23:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Luca Barbato
2007-07-13 23:54 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-14 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Ken
2007-07-14 5:36 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-14 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-14 17:43 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 20:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-14 21:07 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 3:54 ` [gentoo-dev] ML changes Daniel Drake
2007-07-15 10:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 23:13 ` Kumba
2007-07-16 9:03 ` Duncan
2007-07-16 16:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 21:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthias Langer
2007-07-15 22:21 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 3:14 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 22:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 22:30 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:09 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-17 1:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-17 1:34 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 6:18 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 11:45 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-07-16 12:42 ` Michael Cummings
2007-07-16 13:15 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-16 13:47 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 15:00 ` Richard Freeman
2007-07-16 17:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 13:46 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 16:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 17:21 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-16 12:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:17 ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2007-07-16 23:37 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:11 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 23:27 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 12:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 13:29 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-16 17:45 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 17:49 ` Jakub Moc
2007-07-16 20:55 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-16 22:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 18:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " George Prowse
2007-07-16 18:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-17 0:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 20:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Weller
2007-07-16 20:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 0:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 22:22 ` Torsten Veller
2007-07-16 22:27 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-17 7:33 ` Wernfried Haas
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2007-07-13 19:10 [gentoo-dev] " Christina Fullam
2007-07-14 21:03 Christina Fullam
2007-07-15 2:23 ` Dawid Węgliński
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