Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

[Will Briggs <will@burnieanglican.org.au>]

William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:

> Fact is -dev's volume is getting to the point where it's productivity is
> diminishing. Both with dev <-> dev and dev <-> world. The entire idea
> here is to help correct that and makes things BETTER :)

I hear you.  (Although I disagree that there is a relationship between
SNR and dev <-> dev and dev <-> world.)

And you're right that this is something that is a result of the
organisation growing.  And so the question we must face is _how_ do we
want it to grow.

At the moment gentoo-dev is a "one big noisy room" forum.  This is seen
as a "problem"

Propose solutions have included:

1) The "Let's divide up the room" solution - (and so we have proposals
for gentoo-politics, gentoo-flamewar and other more "specialised" fora)

2) The "Let's reduce the people in the room" solution (which is what the
OP's porposal is in essence)

The first doesn't work because it's well nigh impossible to enforce what
is on or off topic.

The second "solution" begs the question of "who do we let in the room?"
 I submit to you that demarcating based on dev status is a Bad Idea.
Some devs make the room less productive, some non-devs would make the
room more productive.
Unfortunately, demarcation of insiders and outsiders by any other means
would be arbitrary.

We arrive at the the third "solution"

3) People in the room can choose to take part in some conversations and
ignore others as they see fit.

This is basically the first two solutions implemented personally rather
than globally.

It's easily implemented through filters and sheer common sense.

Oh, and it's also the status quo.

W.

PS. My heart rate and the alarm bells of being close to repeating myself
indicate that I'm close to being fuel for flame here.  Please excuse if
I don't continue to post.  Not being rude, just exercising some of that
common sense.



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