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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2qdGVtsZ2m_2tA2F==3r5gpk3XjirB5f_ptH08=p-uB7taBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <017301cd00bd$24bce2f0$6e36a8d0$@kutulu.org>

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On Mar 13, 2012 9:05 AM, "Mike Edenfield" <kutulu@kutulu.org> wrote:
>
>  From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
>  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:23 PM
>
> > I like that quote.  I may not be dev material but I know this /usr mess
> > is not right.  The only reason it is happening is because of one or two
> > distros that push it to make it easier for themselves.
>
> If that's honestly what you think then I suspect you don't understand the
problem as well as you believe.
>
> The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without the
software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices is a
configuration that causes problems in many real-world, practical situations.
>
> The requirement of having /usr on the same partition as / is also a
configuration that causes problems in many real-world, practical situations.
>

I quite often read about this, and after some thinking, I have to ask: why?

> The requirement to ensure that /usr is *somehow available* before
launching udevd is a configuration that, I am told, causes problems in some
specialized real-world, practical situations. (I am ignoring "problems"
such as "initramd might possibly break maybe" or "that's more work than I
want to do" as being the expected griping that always happens when you ask
a group of geeks to change something.)
>

When one's handling enterprise servers, "might possibly break" is a 95%
certainty of "you do that and I'll make sure to have a pink slip standing
by." :-)

Rgds,

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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-10  2:48 [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts Dale
2012-03-10  3:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10  4:16   ` Dale
2012-03-10  5:41     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10  6:03       ` Dale
2012-03-10  8:45         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10  9:45           ` Dale
2012-03-10  9:52             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10  9:53             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 10:30               ` Dale
2012-03-10 10:49                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 11:28                   ` Dale
2012-03-10 11:12             ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-10 10:58 ` pk
2012-03-10 15:35   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 20:50     ` pk
2012-03-10 21:01       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 22:12       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11  2:36       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11  9:37         ` pk
2012-03-11 12:16           ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 18:26             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 18:13               ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 20:59             ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-12 18:23               ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-12 18:30                 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 18:39                   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-12 20:25                     ` Mick
2012-03-12 20:39                     ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 20:40                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 23:22                     ` Dale
2012-03-12 23:53                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 15:35                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 15:50                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  1:58                       ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13  4:54                         ` Pandu Poluan [this message]
2012-03-13  7:13                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13  7:31                             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  7:38                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13  8:03                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 11:07                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 18:34                             ` pk
2012-03-14 16:17                             ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 16:28                               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 22:15                                 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15  1:03                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15  2:47                                     ` Dale
2012-03-15  9:13                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 10:10                                         ` Dale
2012-03-15 10:18                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 12:41                                         ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 13:05                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 13:56                                             ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 14:13                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:13                                               ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-16  5:39                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16  8:47                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:09                                       ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 14:47                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-03-15 16:37                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 18:14                                         ` Dale
2012-03-15 12:38                                     ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-13  8:09                       ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13  8:20                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 14:21                         ` Dale
2012-03-14 14:41                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 14:55                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  8:15       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-11  3:25     ` John Blinka
2012-03-10 17:13 ` Todd Goodman
2012-03-10 21:07   ` Dale

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