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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:31:11 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2qdGV7N6z8E8Argshvjn2KqztvKMtwfn5fUA_ce0gdG=Ehng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120313091356.5a947032@khamul.example.com>

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On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>
> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
> > > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
> > > is a configuration that causes problems in many real-world,
> > > practical situations.
> > >
> > > The requirement of having /usr on the same partition as / is also a
> > > configuration that causes problems in many real-world, practical
> > > situations.
> > >
> >
> > I quite often read about this, and after some thinking, I have to
> > ask: why?
> >
>
> I've also thought about this and I also want to ask why?
>
> I stopped using a separate /usr on my workstations a long time ago when
> I realized it was pointless. The days of 5M hard disks when the entire
> OS didn't fit on one are long gone. The days of my software going tits
> up at the drop of a hat requiring a minimal repair environment to fix
> it at boot are also long gone (my desk is littered with LiveCDs and
> bootable flash drives).
>
> So I can't find a single good reason why /usr *must* be separate and my
> workstations are the only machines that will ever have hotplug booting
> issues.
>
> I'm even considering changing the install standards for the company
> servers to dispense with separate /usr, as long as there are safeguards
> against clowns who don't read INSTALL files and happily
> accept /usr/local/<package>/var as a storage area.
>

I just did some more thinking, and *maybe* the reason is to prevent
something under /usr (src and share comes to mind) from growing too big and
messes up the root filesystem.

Place the offenders on a separate partition, then mount them under /usr,
and all should be well...

Rgds,

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-13  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-10  2:48 [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts Dale
2012-03-10  3:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10  4:16   ` Dale
2012-03-10  5:41     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10  6:03       ` Dale
2012-03-10  8:45         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10  9:45           ` Dale
2012-03-10  9:52             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10  9:53             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 10:30               ` Dale
2012-03-10 10:49                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 11:28                   ` Dale
2012-03-10 11:12             ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-10 10:58 ` pk
2012-03-10 15:35   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 20:50     ` pk
2012-03-10 21:01       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 22:12       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11  2:36       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11  9:37         ` pk
2012-03-11 12:16           ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 18:26             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 18:13               ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 20:59             ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-12 18:23               ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-12 18:30                 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 18:39                   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-12 20:25                     ` Mick
2012-03-12 20:39                     ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 20:40                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 23:22                     ` Dale
2012-03-12 23:53                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 15:35                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 15:50                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  1:58                       ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13  4:54                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  7:13                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13  7:31                             ` Pandu Poluan [this message]
2012-03-13  7:38                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13  8:03                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 11:07                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 18:34                             ` pk
2012-03-14 16:17                             ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 16:28                               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 22:15                                 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15  1:03                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15  2:47                                     ` Dale
2012-03-15  9:13                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 10:10                                         ` Dale
2012-03-15 10:18                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 12:41                                         ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 13:05                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 13:56                                             ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 14:13                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:13                                               ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-16  5:39                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16  8:47                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:09                                       ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 14:47                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-03-15 16:37                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 18:14                                         ` Dale
2012-03-15 12:38                                     ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-13  8:09                       ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13  8:20                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 14:21                         ` Dale
2012-03-14 14:41                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 14:55                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13  8:15       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-11  3:25     ` John Blinka
2012-03-10 17:13 ` Todd Goodman
2012-03-10 21:07   ` Dale

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