From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:03:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120315010310.GC32691@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <005701cd022f$e8228fb0$b867af10$@kutulu.org>
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
> Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
> software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
you, on ICEWM.
> He seems to be producing a rather vitriolic, and IMO uncalled-for,
> rant against the simple fact that computers do more stuff in 2012 than
> they did in 1972 and the udev developers are changing with the times.
> This argument falls flat when the author fails to identify what
> he or she considers to be critical vs. non-critical software. Is
> bluetoothd critical? On my laptop it is not. On my main development
> workstation it is not. On my wife's desktop it is because she has
> a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combination. Should bluetoothd be moved
> from /usr/sbin to /sbin? Along with libglib and libdbus, which it
> depends on? How about usbmuxd, or alsactl?
*YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP* won't boot properly without /usr on /, or an
initramfs. OK, put /usr on /, or an initramfs *ON YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP*.
I don't have a problem with that. What gets people really upset is the
dog-in-the-manger attitude of "if my complex/corner-case machine won't
boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs, then by golly *NOBODY'S*
machine will be allowed to boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs".
My machine does not use bluetooth/other-weird-stuff. udev doesn't need
to find bluetooth drivers on /usr on my machine. Why is udev being
deliberately broken to not work on *EVERYBODY'S* machine if they don't
have /usr on /, or an initramfs?
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-10 2:48 [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts Dale
2012-03-10 3:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 4:16 ` Dale
2012-03-10 5:41 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 6:03 ` Dale
2012-03-10 8:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 9:45 ` Dale
2012-03-10 9:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 9:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 10:30 ` Dale
2012-03-10 10:49 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 11:28 ` Dale
2012-03-10 11:12 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-10 10:58 ` pk
2012-03-10 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 20:50 ` pk
2012-03-10 21:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 22:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 2:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 9:37 ` pk
2012-03-11 12:16 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 18:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 18:13 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 20:59 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-12 18:23 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 18:39 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-12 20:25 ` Mick
2012-03-12 20:39 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 20:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 23:22 ` Dale
2012-03-12 23:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 15:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 15:50 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 1:58 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 4:54 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 7:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 7:31 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 7:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 8:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 11:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 18:34 ` pk
2012-03-14 16:17 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 16:28 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 22:15 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 1:03 ` Walter Dnes [this message]
2012-03-15 2:47 ` Dale
2012-03-15 9:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 10:10 ` Dale
2012-03-15 10:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 12:41 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 13:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 13:56 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 14:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:13 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-16 5:39 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 8:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:09 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 14:47 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-15 16:37 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 18:14 ` Dale
2012-03-15 12:38 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-13 8:09 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 8:20 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 14:21 ` Dale
2012-03-14 14:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 14:55 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 8:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 3:25 ` John Blinka
2012-03-10 17:13 ` Todd Goodman
2012-03-10 21:07 ` Dale
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