From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:35:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120313173551.773ed013@khamul.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc83F+2x_Jw1WYX15B2ekLW93oi-HuYF2crs2Vj1NJJb_fA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:53:29 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
> As Alan said in other thread, it can be "fixed" (if you think is not
> right) for some very specific cases. Alan mentioned servers, really
> simple desktops with simple hotplug devices, and embedded systems. For
> mdev to "fix" the situation in the general case, it would have to
> cover all the setups udev covers. That means bluetooth devices
> (including keyboards and mice), USB soundcards, touch screens and the
> like, all of them being plugged and unplugged at any time in any
> order.
>
> Maybe someday mdev will be able to handle all the cases that udev
> does. If it does (which I honestly doubt), I'm pretty sure at that
> point it would have become as complex as udev, if not more, and it
> will probably need the same requirements that udev has. Including the
> simple one that for mounting a filesystem, the plumbing needed to
> mounting it has to be available before, and we cannot keep throwing
> everything directly on / so it can mount /usr.
I'm slowly coming round to this point of view too.
If you want a full blown desktop machine with all the modern bells and
whistles that always JustWorks(tm), realise that you have a complex
system needing complex software. And udev is designed to deal with
that. To accomplish this task, udev needs to apply some constraints.
For almost everything else, that sophistication is not needed and
simpler (i.e. less complex) software will suffice. Currently mdev (or
something else like it) fills that needs.
So 2 different scenarios with different solutions. Horses for courses.
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-10 2:48 [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts Dale
2012-03-10 3:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 4:16 ` Dale
2012-03-10 5:41 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 6:03 ` Dale
2012-03-10 8:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 9:45 ` Dale
2012-03-10 9:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 9:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 10:30 ` Dale
2012-03-10 10:49 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 11:28 ` Dale
2012-03-10 11:12 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-10 10:58 ` pk
2012-03-10 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-10 20:50 ` pk
2012-03-10 21:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-10 22:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 2:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 9:37 ` pk
2012-03-11 12:16 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 18:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 18:13 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-11 20:59 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-12 18:23 ` Jorge Martínez López
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 18:39 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-12 20:25 ` Mick
2012-03-12 20:39 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-12 20:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 23:22 ` Dale
2012-03-12 23:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 15:35 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-03-13 15:50 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 1:58 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 4:54 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 7:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 7:31 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 7:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 8:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 11:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 18:34 ` pk
2012-03-14 16:17 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 16:28 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 22:15 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 1:03 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 2:47 ` Dale
2012-03-15 9:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 10:10 ` Dale
2012-03-15 10:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 12:41 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 13:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 13:56 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-15 14:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:13 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-16 5:39 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 8:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-15 14:09 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-15 14:47 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-15 16:37 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 18:14 ` Dale
2012-03-15 12:38 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-13 8:09 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 8:20 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 14:21 ` Dale
2012-03-14 14:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 14:55 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-13 8:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 3:25 ` John Blinka
2012-03-10 17:13 ` Todd Goodman
2012-03-10 21:07 ` Dale
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