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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:11:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131203211130.GA31972@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO-1Pb4Bspe-Yv57S70rFdeX4M48cXQ=H6D=4THfeGU9i89=Dw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:10PM +0400, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
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> > On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> > > On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
> > >> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
> > >> use flag is temporary.
> > >
> > >> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
> > >> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
> > >> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
> > >> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
> > >> their systems.
> > >
> > > As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
> > > are we doing about this?  In my opinion, anyone removing net
> > > support from the stage3's should be killed with fire.  That said, I
> > > don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
> > > documented and actually usable.
> > >
> > > Thoughts on how we move forward?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Zero
> > >
> >
> > Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
> > networking stack that we want to have in gentoo?  IMO that should
> > remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.
> 
> I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
> default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
> @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
> want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
> the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
> vote.

I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which
has the following rdepend settings:

RDEPEND=" || (
	net-misc/netifrc
	>=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet]
	net-misc/badvpn
	net-misc/dhcpcd
	net-misc/netctl
	net-misc/NetworkManager
	net-misc/wicd )"

	Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way?

	William


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-03 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32       ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11         ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-12-03 21:43           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04  1:14           ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31                 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05  8:01                   ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05  9:23                     ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:13                   ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05  0:20                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:17                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05  1:56                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05  7:39                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01               ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07  5:52           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42             ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08  2:34                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  6:22               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04             ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47                   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10  1:33                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46                           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11  2:57                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  5:56                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47                           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57                             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22                               ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38                               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24                       ` mingdao
2013-12-15  0:59                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15  1:37                           ` mingdao
2013-12-16 22:41                           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30                 ` Patrick Lauer

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