From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:22:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A32F3F.2030209@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kZNmMs5cTGhAp8PPL2gS8_z8nVQ8PRxK1EUiosevAnhg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/07/2013 07:42 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> Honestly, I'm not really sure why anyone would want to make stage3 less
>> functional than it already is but honestly net isn't something I'm ready
>> to give up just yet.
>
> It isn't about making the stage3 less functional, but about giving the
> user a choice. We don't stick a kernel in stage3, despite the fact
> that everybody needs one. We don't stick an MTA in the stage3 despite
> the fact that one of those is pretty hard to live without.
>
> Now that Gentoo apparently offers a wide selection of network
> managers, perhaps it makes sense to have the user pick which one they
> want to use.
Choice is fine, I love choice, but to have a user unpack a stage tarball
and find no way at all to handle their networking.... that's just ugly.
I mean we could just have dhcpcd in @system and let people figure it
out from there (wouldn't be my first choice but it would work) but I
would say it is rare enough to not need net that removing all networking
options from stage3 is near suicidal.
I can do all kinds of amazing things on a system without an MTA. But if
I have no net I can't even install net....
- -Zero
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-07 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04 1:14 ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05 8:01 ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05 9:23 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 0:20 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05 1:56 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38 ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05 7:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07 5:52 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina [this message]
2013-12-07 23:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08 2:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 6:22 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10 1:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11 2:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 5:56 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22 ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24 ` mingdao
2013-12-15 0:59 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15 1:37 ` mingdao
2013-12-16 22:41 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30 ` Patrick Lauer
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