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From: Alexander V Vershilov <alexander.vershilov@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 21:32:10 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO-1Pb4Bspe-Yv57S70rFdeX4M48cXQ=H6D=4THfeGU9i89=Dw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <529CFAA1.7080608@gentoo.org>

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On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> > On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
> >> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
> >> use flag is temporary.
> >
> >> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
> >> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
> >> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
> >> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
> >> their systems.
> >
> > As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
> > are we doing about this?  In my opinion, anyone removing net
> > support from the stage3's should be killed with fire.  That said, I
> > don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
> > documented and actually usable.
> >
> > Thoughts on how we move forward?
> >
> > Thanks, Zero
> >
>
> Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
> networking stack that we want to have in gentoo?  IMO that should
> remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.

I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
@system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
vote.
>
> After deciding that, I expect we should decide how to include it.  My
> guess would be, since for whatever reason we don't want netifrc as
> part of @system or a dep of baselayout-2 or anything like that, we'd
> need to add it to the special releng include list?
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-03 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32       ` Alexander V Vershilov [this message]
2013-12-03 21:11         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04  1:14           ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31                 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05  8:01                   ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05  9:23                     ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:13                   ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05  0:20                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:17                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05  1:56                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05  7:39                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01               ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07  5:52           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42             ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08  2:34                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  6:22               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04             ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47                   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10  1:33                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46                           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11  2:57                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  5:56                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47                           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57                             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22                               ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38                               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24                       ` mingdao
2013-12-15  0:59                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15  1:37                           ` mingdao
2013-12-16 22:41                           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30                 ` Patrick Lauer

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