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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:17:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ0EP4184k+Kku=x-ZqLiFTsWTVPGM-vUo-uyeRWYGRycmOUXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <529FBE92.4000003@gentoo.org>

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 05:30 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 06:46:36PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>>>> seems like a virtual that wouldn't do anything useful except pull in
>>>> random package(s) a la binary-distribution style
>>>
>>> What about the stages? Don't we need some form of net support in
>>> stage 3?
>>>
>>
>> That's debatable. For a typical install, the user has to install other
>> basic stuff like a boot loader, kernel, etc. So having them also
>> select a network config framework seems logical.
>>
>> Is there a use case for a stage3 in which installing netifrc by hand
>> is impractical?
>>
> Well ...
>
> I remember filing a bug quite a while ago because we didn't have a dhcp
> client included anymore. This made installs quite annoying because
> before it was stage3, kernel, bootloader, go!
>
> And now it was go ... stop ... reboot ... install dhcp client ...
> grremblwrrxrmkrxtlmrrrg .... reboot
>
> That extra step of whining was loud enough to have openrc fixed to be
> able to use busybox udhcp, so that "out of the box" most network worked.
>
> ... and now people are trying to do the same again.
>
> I would STRONGLY recommend having a working network setup included in
> stage3, so that compared to now nothing changes.
>
>

Yeah, after some further thought, I'm inclined to agree.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32       ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04  1:14           ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31                 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05  8:01                   ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05  9:23                     ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:13                   ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05  0:20                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:17                   ` Mike Gilbert [this message]
2013-12-05  1:56                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05  7:39                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01               ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07  5:52           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42             ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08  2:34                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  6:22               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04             ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47                   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10  1:33                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46                           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11  2:57                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  5:56                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47                           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57                             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22                               ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38                               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24                       ` mingdao
2013-12-15  0:59                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15  1:37                           ` mingdao
2013-12-16 22:41                           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30                 ` Patrick Lauer

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