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From: mingdao <gentoo-dev@happypenguincomputers.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:37:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131215013755.GG5364@server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131215005950.GA27896@linux1>

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 06:59:50PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> You make some good points. I'll answer your questions as best as I can,
> but we can consider this thread closed. I will not try to put the
> virtual in, but I will come back to the list soon and start another
> thread.
> 
> In a nutshell, our networking is a beast, and we should try to simplify
> it some how imo. I'll write out my thoughts about that when I start the
> other thread.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:24:10AM -0600, mingdao wrote:
> > (1) What is "the new network stack" provided by the newnet USE flag?
> 
> That consists of the network and staticroute scripts which are part of
> OpenRC. The network script sets up interfaces and configures static
> addresses only; it will allow you to run any command at any point in the
> process of doing this. What some people on Gentoo do not like about it
> is it is all or nothing. You can't start/stop/depend on a single
> interface.
> 
> The staticroute script is used to configure multiple static routes once
> the network script has set up the static addresses.
>  
> > (2) Why is dhcpcd referred to as a "network manager" in the same context as
> > wicd, networkmanager, connman, etc? In the sense that dhcpcd is not sufficient
> > for security protected wireless alone, as is, say, wicd; and is not a
> > replacement for true "network manager" apps. DHCP client != network manager
> > app
>  
>  This is a good point, so I will drop putting dhcpcd on the list.
> 
> > (3) Is udhcpc provided by busybox not sufficient in lieu of dhcpcd for stage3? 
> 
> I think udhcpc is what you get in stage 3; if dhcpcd is there, I have no
> idea how it is getting there.
> 
> William

Thanks for your kind reply, William. I'm a networking n00b, but felt those
questions might benefit others, also. For (3) it seemed as if some people were
saying dhcpcd is in stage 3 and they didn't want it dropped. I have a tendency
to use busybox a lot doing a Gentoo install, starting with "ln -s /bin/busybox
/bin/vi"  :D

Kindest regards,
Bruce
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-15  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32       ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04  1:14           ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31                 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05  8:01                   ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05  9:23                     ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:13                   ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05  0:20                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05  0:17                   ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05  1:56                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05  7:39                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01               ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07  5:52           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42             ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08  2:34                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  6:22               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04             ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47                   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10  1:33                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46                           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11  2:57                     ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14  5:56                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47                           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57                             ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22                               ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38                               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24                       ` mingdao
2013-12-15  0:59                         ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15  1:37                           ` mingdao [this message]
2013-12-16 22:41                           ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30                 ` Patrick Lauer

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