From: mingdao <gentoo-dev@happypenguincomputers.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:37:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131215013755.GG5364@server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131215005950.GA27896@linux1>
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 06:59:50PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> You make some good points. I'll answer your questions as best as I can,
> but we can consider this thread closed. I will not try to put the
> virtual in, but I will come back to the list soon and start another
> thread.
>
> In a nutshell, our networking is a beast, and we should try to simplify
> it some how imo. I'll write out my thoughts about that when I start the
> other thread.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:24:10AM -0600, mingdao wrote:
> > (1) What is "the new network stack" provided by the newnet USE flag?
>
> That consists of the network and staticroute scripts which are part of
> OpenRC. The network script sets up interfaces and configures static
> addresses only; it will allow you to run any command at any point in the
> process of doing this. What some people on Gentoo do not like about it
> is it is all or nothing. You can't start/stop/depend on a single
> interface.
>
> The staticroute script is used to configure multiple static routes once
> the network script has set up the static addresses.
>
> > (2) Why is dhcpcd referred to as a "network manager" in the same context as
> > wicd, networkmanager, connman, etc? In the sense that dhcpcd is not sufficient
> > for security protected wireless alone, as is, say, wicd; and is not a
> > replacement for true "network manager" apps. DHCP client != network manager
> > app
>
> This is a good point, so I will drop putting dhcpcd on the list.
>
> > (3) Is udhcpc provided by busybox not sufficient in lieu of dhcpcd for stage3?
>
> I think udhcpc is what you get in stage 3; if dhcpcd is there, I have no
> idea how it is getting there.
>
> William
Thanks for your kind reply, William. I'm a networking n00b, but felt those
questions might benefit others, also. For (3) it seemed as if some people were
saying dhcpcd is in stage 3 and they didn't want it dropped. I have a tendency
to use busybox a lot doing a Gentoo install, starting with "ln -s /bin/busybox
/bin/vi" :D
Kindest regards,
Bruce
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04 1:14 ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05 8:01 ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05 9:23 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 0:20 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05 1:56 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38 ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05 7:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07 5:52 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08 2:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 6:22 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-09 14:50 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10 1:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11 2:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 5:56 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22 ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24 ` mingdao
2013-12-15 0:59 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15 1:37 ` mingdao [this message]
2013-12-16 22:41 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30 ` Patrick Lauer
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