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From: "Bruce Hill, Jr." <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:42:01 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <170345248.821063.1332042121489.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120317162044.0210aa13@khamul.example.com>




On March 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Android != Linux (in context of userspace)
>
> To get a phone shipped with a running Linux (in the usual definition of
> Linux, not Richard Stallman's) you need that Nokia one that will never
> again see the light of day.
>
> Or root your Sony and stick Debian on it. Being a Sony device, that
> might be hard.
>
>
> --
> Alan McKinnnon
> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
>
>

I could also say, IMHO, Ubuntu != Linux (in context of userspace)  <:-)}

My personal definition of "Linux" is "The Linux Kernel", which source can
be downloaded from kernel.org.

My Samsung Galaxy S has "Kernel version 2.6.35.7", which I assume to be The
Linux Kernel.

Sure, it's not beyond Google to steal, or borrow, code and rewrite enough
stuff and call it it's own. But we all know the source. (And failure to
agree to the new Google {Play,Music,Books} and YouTube license(s) has
caused me not to be able to upgrade applications ... 16 iirc and counting.)


I'm just wondering what "Linux" phone he, or anyone, is using -- after him
saying [the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users.]
Maybe the vast majority of Linux users are phone users, but I took it to
mean the vast majority of Linux users are those using phones running Linux
(which I highly doubt).

After using the previously mentioned iPhone (my first smartphone) for >1
year, it just made me feel weird being so not-like-Linux. But it works
well, except for decreased cell signal when holding the phone.

After using this Android phone for <3 months, I'm counting the days until I
can upgrade to an iPhone. The Galaxy has frozen, crashed, hung; it's
wireless signal is not nearly as good as the iPhone, nor is it's battery
usage. It has features which I like over the iPhone 3 series, but I've
never used a 4 series to compare. And customer services says, "Maybe you
have a virus. We're not trained on Android, just Windoze and Apple
devices." (So why offer them to your customers? There's money in it,
silly!)

Just curious about phones. After using these 2 smartphones (since June
2010), I miss my dumb flip phone. If money were no object, I'd buy one of
the new iPads for ultra portable internet access, and get a simple dumb
phone for cellular use.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-18  3:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15  6:21 [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? waltdnes
2011-11-15  7:44 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:16   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-11-15 17:03     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:41   ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-11-15 17:04     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 20:16   ` waltdnes
2011-11-16  0:52     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16  1:41       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16  3:18         ` yegle
2011-11-16 10:21       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 10:57       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-20 16:29 ` pk
2011-11-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 2 waltdnes
2011-11-30 13:58   ` Pandu Poluan
2011-12-01 19:36     ` Walter Dnes
2011-12-01 19:45   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Walter Dnes
2011-12-02  0:23     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 10:04     ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 10:22       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 12:32         ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 12:48           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 13:13             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:42               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 14:31                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 14:43                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 15:04                     ` Dale
2012-01-03 22:15                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 23:15                     ` Dale
2012-01-04 12:35                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-04 20:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-01-04 23:33                           ` Dale
2012-01-04 23:49                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05  0:02                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05  7:30                                 ` pk
2012-01-05  7:43                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05  8:17                                     ` pk
2012-01-05 12:08                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:03                                         ` Dale
2012-01-05 15:52                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 18:12                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 16:03                                           ` pk
2012-01-05 16:20                                             ` Dale
2012-01-05 16:39                                               ` pk
2012-01-05 16:48                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06  1:29                                                 ` Dale
2012-01-06  3:00                                                   ` pk
2012-01-06  3:29                                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 15:50                                         ` pk
2012-01-05 18:02                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 18:20                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 20:15                                               ` Mick
2012-01-05 20:33                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 20:01                                             ` pk
2012-01-05 16:29                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-07  1:17                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 11:44                                     ` pk
2012-01-08 23:48                                       ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-09  8:19                                         ` pk
2012-01-09  9:47                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-09 19:25                                             ` pk
2012-01-09 21:08                                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-10 12:13                                               ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-01-05  9:07                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 10:01                             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 11:22                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 19:20                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:08                                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 21:38                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:10                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-06  1:45                                       ` Dale
2012-01-06  2:15                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06  2:39                                           ` Dale
2012-01-05 11:46                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:41                               ` pk
2012-01-03 13:18           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 13:36             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:49               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-01-03 14:35                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:54               ` Dale
2012-01-03 15:22         ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:49           ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 16:52           ` Mick
2012-02-17 23:40     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4 Walter Dnes
2012-02-18  5:51       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-27  9:49       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-29  1:27         ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11  9:09       ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 11:27         ` Daddy
2012-03-11 14:17           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 18:39             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 19:37             ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:10               ` David Abbott
2012-03-11 20:34                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 21:20                   ` Dale
2012-03-11 23:42                     ` Daddy
2012-03-12  1:30                       ` Dale
2012-03-12 12:21                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13  2:41                     ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-13  7:02                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 11:01                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 14:55                         ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-11 23:04                 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:27               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 23:07                 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 23:38                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 19:23             ` pk
2012-03-11 19:28           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 19:49             ` Daddy
2012-03-12 19:09             ` pk
2012-03-20 19:49           ` covici
2012-03-20 20:08             ` pk
2012-03-21  0:45             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 14:08         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 21:34         ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 20:45           ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6 Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 13:15             ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-14 21:43               ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 22:09                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 23:59                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15  0:10                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-15  0:23                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12  9:24         ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-12 19:42           ` pk
2012-03-13  7:14           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 12:33             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13  7:33           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 13:05             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 19:00               ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 19:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 20:27                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 20:54                     ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:22                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 21:35                         ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:49                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:36                             ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 22:46                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:00                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-14  8:48                           ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-13 21:07                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 21:33                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 22:20                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 22:38                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 23:03                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14  0:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14  0:52                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 15:16                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 16:12                                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 21:01                                     ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 17:22                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 18:03                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 18:19                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:24                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:29                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:45                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 22:14                                             ` pk
2012-03-14 18:09                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 18:45                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:41                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 19:53                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15  7:23                                             ` Dale
2012-03-14 20:16                                         ` pk
2012-03-17  4:20                                     ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17  4:27                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 14:20                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18  3:42                                           ` Bruce Hill, Jr. [this message]
2012-03-14 21:49                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 15:20                                 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-14 15:27                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 15:59                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16  6:13                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16  8:46                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-16 14:44                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 22:33                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 14:11                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:23                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:33                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20  8:35                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 20:47                               ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 23:03                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 23:43                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14  9:32                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 17:56                           ` Stroller
2012-03-14 19:59                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-15  0:29                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-17 13:24                             ` Graham Murray

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