From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:22:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120105112222.786c1561@hactar.digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120105100149.GA2443@nicolas-desktop>
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:01:49 +0100, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> You might like it or not but udev is a core system tool, nowadays.
Yes, today. It wasn't yesterday and it may not be tomorrow. I like udev,
but I do not like the direction it is taking. I am not alone in this and
there may be a critical mass needed to create an alternative, whether
that be an evolution of mdev or something completely new.
You cannot assume that you can make whatever changes you want and all
users will follow, that's why there are so many new Xubuntu and Mint
users.
You are clearly happy with udev and already want/need an initramfs. Don't
fall into the same trap as the udev developers and think that what you
want it was everyone else wants.
--
Neil Bothwick
Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
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Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-15 6:21 [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? waltdnes
2011-11-15 7:44 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-11-15 17:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:41 ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-11-15 17:04 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 20:16 ` waltdnes
2011-11-16 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 1:41 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 3:18 ` yegle
2011-11-16 10:21 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 10:57 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-20 16:29 ` pk
2011-11-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 2 waltdnes
2011-11-30 13:58 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-12-01 19:36 ` Walter Dnes
2011-12-01 19:45 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Walter Dnes
2011-12-02 0:23 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 10:04 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 10:22 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 12:32 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 12:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 13:13 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:42 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 14:31 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 15:04 ` Dale
2012-01-03 22:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 23:15 ` Dale
2012-01-04 12:35 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-04 20:21 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-01-04 23:33 ` Dale
2012-01-04 23:49 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 0:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 7:30 ` pk
2012-01-05 7:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 8:17 ` pk
2012-01-05 12:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:03 ` Dale
2012-01-05 15:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 18:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 16:03 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:20 ` Dale
2012-01-05 16:39 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06 1:29 ` Dale
2012-01-06 3:00 ` pk
2012-01-06 3:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 15:50 ` pk
2012-01-05 18:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 18:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 20:15 ` Mick
2012-01-05 20:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 20:01 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-07 1:17 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 11:44 ` pk
2012-01-08 23:48 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-09 8:19 ` pk
2012-01-09 9:47 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-09 19:25 ` pk
2012-01-09 21:08 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-10 12:13 ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-01-05 9:07 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 10:01 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 11:22 ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2012-01-05 19:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:08 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 21:38 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-06 1:45 ` Dale
2012-01-06 2:15 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06 2:39 ` Dale
2012-01-05 11:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:41 ` pk
2012-01-03 13:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 13:36 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:49 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-01-03 14:35 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:54 ` Dale
2012-01-03 15:22 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:49 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 16:52 ` Mick
2012-02-17 23:40 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4 Walter Dnes
2012-02-18 5:51 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-27 9:49 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-29 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 9:09 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 11:27 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 14:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 18:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 19:37 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:10 ` David Abbott
2012-03-11 20:34 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 21:20 ` Dale
2012-03-11 23:42 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 1:30 ` Dale
2012-03-12 12:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 2:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-13 7:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 11:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 14:55 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-11 23:04 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 23:07 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 23:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 19:23 ` pk
2012-03-11 19:28 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 19:49 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 19:09 ` pk
2012-03-20 19:49 ` covici
2012-03-20 20:08 ` pk
2012-03-21 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 14:08 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 21:34 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 20:45 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6 Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-14 21:43 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 22:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 23:59 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 0:10 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-15 0:23 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 9:24 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-12 19:42 ` pk
2012-03-13 7:14 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 12:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 7:33 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 13:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 19:00 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 19:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 20:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 20:54 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 21:35 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:36 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 22:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:00 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-14 8:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-13 21:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 21:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 22:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 22:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 0:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 15:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 16:12 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 21:01 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 17:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 18:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 18:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:24 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 22:14 ` pk
2012-03-14 18:09 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 18:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 19:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15 7:23 ` Dale
2012-03-14 20:16 ` pk
2012-03-17 4:20 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 14:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 3:42 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-14 21:49 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 15:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-14 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 15:59 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 6:13 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 8:46 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-16 14:44 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 14:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20 8:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 20:47 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 23:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 9:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 17:56 ` Stroller
2012-03-14 19:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-15 0:29 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-17 13:24 ` Graham Murray
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