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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:24:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120312092432.GA2959@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120311090912.GA23850@waltdnes.org>

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:09:12AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
>   This revision makes 2 changes...

> A) The removal of udev is now standard instead of optional.  udev-181
> and higher will be pulling in kmod, and anything else that kmod depends
> on.  Removing udev will avoid unnecessary cruft on your machine.

> B) Splitting up step 3) into 3a) and 3b) for greater clarity as
> requested in user feedback.

>   The usual warnings apply...
> * this is a beta
> * use a spare test machine
> * if you don't follow the instructions correctly, the result might be
>   an unbootable linux
> * even if you do follow instructions, the result might be an unbootable
>   linux

Yep, I got the (effectively) unbootable machine: My LVM partitions didn't
get mounted.  My precaution against it was: (i) Copy my entire (working)
root partition to a new partition.  (ii) Edit the first line of the new
/etc/fstab.  (iii) Add a new entry to /etc/lilo.conf.  It's handy having
a small root partition.  :-)

> 1) Set up your kernel to support and automount a devtmpfs filesystem at
>    /dev

> * If you prefer to edit .config directly, set
>   CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y

> * If you prefer "make menuconfig", the route is as shown below.  Note
>   that the "Autount devtmpfs..." option won't appear until you enable
>   "Maintain a devtmpf..." option.

> make menuconfig
>   Device Drivers  --->
>     Generic Driver Options  --->
>       [*] Maintain a devtmpfs filesystem to mount at /dev
>       [*]   Automount devtmpfs at /dev, after the kernel mounted the rootfs

>   Once you've made the changes, rebuild the kernel.


> 2) Set up for emerging busybox.  busybox requires the "mdev" flag in
> this situation.  The "static" flag is probably also a good idea.  In
> file /etc/portage/package.use add the line

> sys-apps/busybox static mdev

>    Now, "emerge busybox"


> 3 a) Create /sbin/linuxrc containing at least

> #!/bin/busybox ash
> mount -t proc proc /proc
> mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys
> exec /sbin/init

>   This should be enough for most users.  If you have an unusual setup,
> you may need additional stuff in there.  Remember to
> "chmod 744 /sbin/linuxrc" to make it executable.

I may have an unusual setup, but I don't think so.  I've got my root
partition as ext2 on /dev/sda5, and everything else under LVM.
Otherwise, pretty standard.

>  In the bootloader "append" line, include "init=/sbin/linuxrc".  If
> you're using lilo remember to re-run lilo to implement the changes.  If
> you're using another bootloader, make the equivalant initialization.

How do I know whether my /sbin/linuxrc actually ran?  Maybe, I mean how
can I be sure my "append = "init=/sbin/linuxrc"" actually worked?

> 4) Remove udev from the services list, and replace it with mdev.  Type
>    the following 2 commands at the command line
> rc-update del udev sysinit
> rc-update add mdev sysinit

Done

> 5) reboot to your new kernel.  You're now running without using udev.

Here's where I got problems.  None of my LVM partitions got mounted.
Here're a few lines of my bootup messages, just before the problem:

* Setting up mdev as hotplug agent ...
* Populating /dev with existing devices with mdev -s ...
* Mounting /dev/pts ...
* Mounting /dev/shm ...

Enter runlevel: 3
* Setting up system clock using the hardware clock [UTC]
* Setting up the Logical Volume Manager
* Checking local filesystems
/dev/sda5: clean, 6052/655360 files, 180423/2621440 blocks
fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/vg/usr
.....
<and so on, for all my other partitions>

> 6) Remove udev as per the following instructions...

> * execute the following command at the commandline
> emerge --unmerge sys-fs/udev

> * In file /atc/portage/package.mask, append the line
> sys-fs/udev
>   Create the file if it doesn't already exist.  You now have a totally
> udev-free machine

Help would be appreciated.

> -- 
> Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-12  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15  6:21 [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? waltdnes
2011-11-15  7:44 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:16   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-11-15 17:03     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:41   ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-11-15 17:04     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 20:16   ` waltdnes
2011-11-16  0:52     ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16  1:41       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16  3:18         ` yegle
2011-11-16 10:21       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 10:57       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-20 16:29 ` pk
2011-11-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 2 waltdnes
2011-11-30 13:58   ` Pandu Poluan
2011-12-01 19:36     ` Walter Dnes
2011-12-01 19:45   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Walter Dnes
2011-12-02  0:23     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 10:04     ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 10:22       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 12:32         ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 12:48           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 13:13             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:42               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 14:31                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 14:43                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 15:04                     ` Dale
2012-01-03 22:15                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 23:15                     ` Dale
2012-01-04 12:35                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-04 20:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-01-04 23:33                           ` Dale
2012-01-04 23:49                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05  0:02                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05  7:30                                 ` pk
2012-01-05  7:43                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05  8:17                                     ` pk
2012-01-05 12:08                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:03                                         ` Dale
2012-01-05 15:52                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 18:12                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 16:03                                           ` pk
2012-01-05 16:20                                             ` Dale
2012-01-05 16:39                                               ` pk
2012-01-05 16:48                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06  1:29                                                 ` Dale
2012-01-06  3:00                                                   ` pk
2012-01-06  3:29                                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 15:50                                         ` pk
2012-01-05 18:02                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 18:20                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 20:15                                               ` Mick
2012-01-05 20:33                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 20:01                                             ` pk
2012-01-05 16:29                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-07  1:17                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 11:44                                     ` pk
2012-01-08 23:48                                       ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-09  8:19                                         ` pk
2012-01-09  9:47                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-09 19:25                                             ` pk
2012-01-09 21:08                                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-10 12:13                                               ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-01-05  9:07                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 10:01                             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 11:22                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 19:20                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:08                                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 21:38                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:10                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-06  1:45                                       ` Dale
2012-01-06  2:15                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06  2:39                                           ` Dale
2012-01-05 11:46                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:41                               ` pk
2012-01-03 13:18           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 13:36             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:49               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-01-03 14:35                 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:54               ` Dale
2012-01-03 15:22         ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:49           ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 16:52           ` Mick
2012-02-17 23:40     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4 Walter Dnes
2012-02-18  5:51       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-27  9:49       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-29  1:27         ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11  9:09       ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 11:27         ` Daddy
2012-03-11 14:17           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 18:39             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 19:37             ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:10               ` David Abbott
2012-03-11 20:34                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 21:20                   ` Dale
2012-03-11 23:42                     ` Daddy
2012-03-12  1:30                       ` Dale
2012-03-12 12:21                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13  2:41                     ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-13  7:02                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 11:01                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 14:55                         ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-11 23:04                 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:27               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 23:07                 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 23:38                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 19:23             ` pk
2012-03-11 19:28           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 19:49             ` Daddy
2012-03-12 19:09             ` pk
2012-03-20 19:49           ` covici
2012-03-20 20:08             ` pk
2012-03-21  0:45             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 14:08         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 21:34         ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 20:45           ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6 Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 13:15             ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-14 21:43               ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 22:09                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 23:59                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15  0:10                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-15  0:23                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12  9:24         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2012-03-12 19:42           ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( pk
2012-03-13  7:14           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 12:33             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13  7:33           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 13:05             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 19:00               ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 19:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 20:27                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 20:54                     ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:22                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 21:35                         ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:49                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:36                             ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 22:46                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:00                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-14  8:48                           ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-13 21:07                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 21:33                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 22:20                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 22:38                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 23:03                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14  0:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14  0:52                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 15:16                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 16:12                                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 21:01                                     ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 17:22                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 18:03                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 18:19                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:24                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:29                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:45                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 22:14                                             ` pk
2012-03-14 18:09                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 18:45                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:41                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 19:53                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15  7:23                                             ` Dale
2012-03-14 20:16                                         ` pk
2012-03-17  4:20                                     ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17  4:27                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 14:20                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18  3:42                                           ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-14 21:49                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 15:20                                 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-14 15:27                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 15:59                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16  6:13                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16  8:46                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-16 14:44                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 22:33                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 14:11                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:23                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:33                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20  8:35                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 20:47                               ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 23:03                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 23:43                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14  9:32                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 17:56                           ` Stroller
2012-03-14 19:59                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-15  0:29                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-17 13:24                             ` Graham Murray

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