Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3

[Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>]

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On Tuesday 03 Jan 2012 15:22:29 Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 05:22:09PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
> 
> > (Come to think of it, has *any* distro ever attempted this...
> > 'unconventional of going udev-free?)
> 
>   Alpine linux has done it http://alpinelinux.org/  Unfortunately,
> they're so minimalistic and server-oriented that they use uclibc instead
> of glibc.  So Alpine is not viable as a desktop distro.  Think of it as
> 
> Gentoo with mdev instead of udev == Alpine with glibc instead of uclibc
> 
>   By the way, there's a thread on the Gentoo developer list discussing
> the situation, and the proposed move of a bunch of stuff to /usr.  See
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_view_flat;post=245148;
> page=1;mh=-1;list=gentoo;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC
> 
>   I piped up with my proposal.  We'll see what happens.

I'd like to thank Walter for doing something about this and Pandu for testing 
it, rather than just wingeing (like I did).  :p

I don't hold any hope that mdev will replace udev, but that this effort may go 
someway to influence the development philosophy that has been entertained to 
date with udev.  A philosophy that removes choice and flexibility.  This is 
felt more by Gentoo users, because Gentoo as we know is not a binary distro 
and the needs of its users are more nuanced and eclectic.

As I recall from this mammoth thread mdev is one option, a staged mounting of 
devices/running of scripts by udev is another.  Anything that will make udev 
devs to stop for a minute and think again the impact of their choices on the 
overall Linux community will be of benefit.  If Walter's good effort bring this 
about I would be more than happy to support him, although with a laptop using 
mdev may not be my immediate preferred solution.
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Regards,
Mick

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