From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2447631.Yi3LRrrIq7@eve> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA2qdGU=_zuvy2jkcSKP8QdBFbcKkEOA4xgx_vc68hpotS0UxA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:59:30 PM Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2012 10:30 PM, "Michael Mol" <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org>
> wrote:
> > > Or asked another way -
> > >
> > > Why is LVM2 incapable od using mdev?
>
> Alan has explained that LVM2 actually is able to run under mdev, and he's
> investigating if there's any LVM2 feature that is not available.
>
> So far, there's none, and I'm strongly suspicious that it's a case of
> missing dev symlinks that prevented LVM2 to work; something later on the
> "default" runlevel then created the proper dev entries that allow LVM2 to
> work.
>
> If that is the case -- which I strongly suspect -- then one can use mdev's
> built-in ability to rename/move a device + create a symlink [1]
>
> [1]
> https://svn.mcs.anl.gov/repos/ZeptoOS/trunk/BGP/packages/busybox/src/docs/md
> ev.txt
I don't have the time to test this yet, but I am definitely planning on trying
mdev. Especially because I don't like the direction udev is going.
Auto-creation of /dev entries. Yes, very usefull
Renaming devices according to some simple rules. Yes, very usefull.
Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we getting
"autostart" support for CDs and USB-keys and under which user-account will
these be executed?
This system is mostly used by me, but my wife also uses it sometimes. Even
when I leave a desktop-session active. She simply starts a second one.
If this is implemented, will the autostart-script run under my account, my
wifes, or *shudder* as root?
Walt, keep up the good work. I need LVM to work on the server, once we have
confirmed it does work and how to configure mdev to work with it, I'll start
to switch my servers.
> > The presumption is that lvm's dependent binaries would be found
> > somewhere under a mount point other than / (such as /usr), which gives
> > you a chicken-and-egg problem if mounting that mount point requires
> > lvm.
>
> Uh... mounting filesystems is not the purview of {u,m}dev...
...yet.... ;)
That is, untill someone comes up with the "clever" idea of shoving an
automounter into udev. (Will it then also auto-unmount when I want my CD
back?)
--
Joost
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2011-11-15 6:21 [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? waltdnes
2011-11-15 7:44 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-11-15 17:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:41 ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-11-15 17:04 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 20:16 ` waltdnes
2011-11-16 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 1:41 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 3:18 ` yegle
2011-11-16 10:21 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 10:57 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-20 16:29 ` pk
2011-11-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 2 waltdnes
2011-11-30 13:58 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-12-01 19:36 ` Walter Dnes
2011-12-01 19:45 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Walter Dnes
2011-12-02 0:23 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 10:04 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 10:22 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 12:32 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 12:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 13:13 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:42 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 14:31 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 15:04 ` Dale
2012-01-03 22:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 23:15 ` Dale
2012-01-04 12:35 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-04 20:21 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-01-04 23:33 ` Dale
2012-01-04 23:49 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 0:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 7:30 ` pk
2012-01-05 7:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 8:17 ` pk
2012-01-05 12:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:03 ` Dale
2012-01-05 15:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 18:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 16:03 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:20 ` Dale
2012-01-05 16:39 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06 1:29 ` Dale
2012-01-06 3:00 ` pk
2012-01-06 3:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 15:50 ` pk
2012-01-05 18:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 18:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 20:15 ` Mick
2012-01-05 20:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 20:01 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-07 1:17 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 11:44 ` pk
2012-01-08 23:48 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-09 8:19 ` pk
2012-01-09 9:47 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-09 19:25 ` pk
2012-01-09 21:08 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-10 12:13 ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-01-05 9:07 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 10:01 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 11:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 19:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:08 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 21:38 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-06 1:45 ` Dale
2012-01-06 2:15 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06 2:39 ` Dale
2012-01-05 11:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:41 ` pk
2012-01-03 13:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 13:36 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:49 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-01-03 14:35 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:54 ` Dale
2012-01-03 15:22 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:49 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 16:52 ` Mick
2012-02-17 23:40 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4 Walter Dnes
2012-02-18 5:51 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-27 9:49 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-29 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 9:09 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 11:27 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 14:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 18:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 19:37 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:10 ` David Abbott
2012-03-11 20:34 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 21:20 ` Dale
2012-03-11 23:42 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 1:30 ` Dale
2012-03-12 12:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 2:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-13 7:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 11:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 14:55 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-11 23:04 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 23:07 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 23:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 19:23 ` pk
2012-03-11 19:28 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 19:49 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 19:09 ` pk
2012-03-20 19:49 ` covici
2012-03-20 20:08 ` pk
2012-03-21 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 14:08 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 21:34 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 20:45 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6 Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-14 21:43 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 22:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 23:59 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 0:10 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-15 0:23 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 9:24 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-12 19:42 ` pk
2012-03-13 7:14 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 12:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 7:33 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 13:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 19:00 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 19:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 20:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 20:54 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 21:35 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:36 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 22:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:00 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-14 8:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-13 21:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 21:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 22:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 22:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 0:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 15:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 16:12 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 21:01 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 17:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 18:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 18:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:24 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 22:14 ` pk
2012-03-14 18:09 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 18:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 19:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15 7:23 ` Dale
2012-03-14 20:16 ` pk
2012-03-17 4:20 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 14:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 3:42 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-14 21:49 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 15:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-14 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 15:59 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 6:13 ` Joost Roeleveld [this message]
2012-03-16 8:46 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-16 14:44 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 14:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20 8:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 20:47 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 23:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 9:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 17:56 ` Stroller
2012-03-14 19:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-15 0:29 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-17 13:24 ` Graham Murray
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