From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:15:43 +0700 [thread overview]
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On Jan 6, 2012 8:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> I see that as a liability not a feature. Our routers have very clear
naming conventions for interfaces and they are exactly how Cisco enumerates
them and no other way. It's a firing offense to dick with them and dream up
useless "descriptive names". Mind you, these for the most part are big iron
with several 1000 interfaces each and 100+ support personnel working on
them. But even the on-site routers and firewalls at customer premises have
the same rule. I assume we are talking about kit that routes properly
(whether a Unix or something else is not relevant) and not some joke
system. As for NICs that do not come up at boot time in a consistent order,
if any piece of hardware in our DC did that it would be sent right back to
the vendor labeled as a piece of shit with a demand for a refund. FFS, if
my boss shells out 3 months wages for some iron and it can't even get
something that basic correct, I start to wonder what else might be dodgy.
There is ZERO excuse for a system that cannot deterministically enumerate
it's fixed devices at boot time.
>
>
> I have a couple desktop rigs. I had a card that would sometimes not do
right and change the order of my cards numbering. Since it was earlier
than the card that hooked to my modem, it would mess up my connection to
the internet. The card was eth0 and I had internet coming through on eth2.
That rig now has two nics. The defective nic was removed. It has a new
address called /dev/dump.
>
> It may be a desktop rig but I like them being recognized the same each
time I reboot. Although, I forgot about being able to give them names. <
scratches chin > Nah, I'll leave well enough alone. It's working and we
don't mess with what is working, except for Fedora devs. lol
>
mdev is capable of renaming devices, you know ;-)
https://svn.mcs.anl.gov/repos/ZeptoOS/trunk/BGP/packages/busybox/src/docs/mdev.txt
Rgds,
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2011-11-15 6:21 [gentoo-user] Anybody want to beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev? waltdnes
2011-11-15 7:44 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-11-15 17:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 16:41 ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-11-15 17:04 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-15 20:16 ` waltdnes
2011-11-16 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 1:41 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 3:18 ` yegle
2011-11-16 10:21 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-16 10:57 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-11-20 16:29 ` pk
2011-11-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 2 waltdnes
2011-11-30 13:58 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-12-01 19:36 ` Walter Dnes
2011-12-01 19:45 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Walter Dnes
2011-12-02 0:23 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 10:04 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 10:22 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 12:32 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 12:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 13:13 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:42 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-03 14:31 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 15:04 ` Dale
2012-01-03 22:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 23:15 ` Dale
2012-01-04 12:35 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-04 20:21 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-01-04 23:33 ` Dale
2012-01-04 23:49 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 0:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 7:30 ` pk
2012-01-05 7:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 8:17 ` pk
2012-01-05 12:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:03 ` Dale
2012-01-05 15:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 18:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 16:03 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:20 ` Dale
2012-01-05 16:39 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:48 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-06 1:29 ` Dale
2012-01-06 3:00 ` pk
2012-01-06 3:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 15:50 ` pk
2012-01-05 18:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 18:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 20:15 ` Mick
2012-01-05 20:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 20:01 ` pk
2012-01-05 16:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-07 1:17 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 11:44 ` pk
2012-01-08 23:48 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-09 8:19 ` pk
2012-01-09 9:47 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-09 19:25 ` pk
2012-01-09 21:08 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-10 12:13 ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-01-05 9:07 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-05 10:01 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 11:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-05 19:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:08 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-05 21:38 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-05 22:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-06 1:45 ` Dale
2012-01-06 2:15 ` Pandu Poluan [this message]
2012-01-06 2:39 ` Dale
2012-01-05 11:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-05 14:41 ` pk
2012-01-03 13:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 13:36 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:49 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-01-03 14:35 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 13:54 ` Dale
2012-01-03 15:22 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:49 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 16:52 ` Mick
2012-02-17 23:40 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4 Walter Dnes
2012-02-18 5:51 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-27 9:49 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-29 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 9:09 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 11:27 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 14:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 18:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-11 19:37 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:10 ` David Abbott
2012-03-11 20:34 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 21:20 ` Dale
2012-03-11 23:42 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 1:30 ` Dale
2012-03-12 12:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 2:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-13 7:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-13 11:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 14:55 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-11 23:04 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 20:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-11 23:07 ` Daddy
2012-03-11 23:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-12 19:23 ` pk
2012-03-11 19:28 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-11 19:49 ` Daddy
2012-03-12 19:09 ` pk
2012-03-20 19:49 ` covici
2012-03-20 20:08 ` pk
2012-03-21 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 14:08 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-11 21:34 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 20:45 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6 Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-14 21:43 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 22:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 23:59 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 0:10 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-15 0:23 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-12 9:24 ` [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-12 19:42 ` pk
2012-03-13 7:14 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 12:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 7:33 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 13:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 19:00 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 19:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 20:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 20:54 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 21:35 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 21:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:36 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-13 22:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 22:00 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-14 8:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-13 21:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 21:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 22:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-13 22:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 0:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 0:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 15:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 16:12 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 21:01 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-14 17:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 18:03 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 18:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:24 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:29 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-14 19:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 22:14 ` pk
2012-03-14 18:09 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 18:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 19:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 19:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15 7:23 ` Dale
2012-03-14 20:16 ` pk
2012-03-17 4:20 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 14:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 3:42 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-14 21:49 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-14 15:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-14 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-14 15:59 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-16 6:13 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 8:46 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-16 14:44 ` Joost Roeleveld
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 14:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20 8:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 20:47 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-13 23:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-13 23:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-14 9:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-14 17:56 ` Stroller
2012-03-14 19:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-15 0:29 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-17 13:24 ` Graham Murray
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