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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:31:36 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ktbl68$jf5$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20130731182115.GI1010@server

On 2013-07-31, Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 01:09:03PM -0500, Canek Pel?ez Vald?s wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly
>>> some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be
>>> files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
>> 
>> If you use systemd, all the files installed in /etc/init.d (except
>> functions.sh) don't actually do nothing. If you use OpenRC, all the
>> files installed in /urs/lib/systemd/system don't actually do nothing.
>> 
>> Whichever you use (OpenRC or systemd), you will have files in both
>> locations (actually, a bunch of them), and therefore one of those
>> locations will have files that don't actually do nothing.
>> 
>> Unless you use INSTALL_MASK, which is of course what this is all about.

> In English "don't actually do nothing" means "do something"; i.e. "don't
> actually do anything" != "don't actually do nothing".

In standard, formal English, that's correct.

However, in some English dialects, a double-negatve does not equate to
a positive.  A double negative is simply a stronger negative.  For
example, "don't do nothing" is a stronger, more emphatic version of
"don't do anything".  Languages like that have "negative concord". 
Old and Middle English were that way, and some modern dialects of
English are that way.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Either CONFESS now or
                                  at               we go to "PEOPLE'S COURT"!!
                              gmail.com            



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-28  8:22 [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-29  3:30 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-29 11:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-30  7:04   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-31 18:28     ` Michael Palimaka
2013-07-30  7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30  7:47   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 16:17     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 17:53       ` covici
2013-07-30 18:06         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 22:04           ` covici
2013-07-30 22:40             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31  6:24               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-07-31  7:00                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-01  9:43                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 16:15                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  5:18                       ` covici
2013-07-31 11:34               ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 12:30                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:41                     ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:24                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-31 17:45                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 10:24                       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 11:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 15:46                           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-08-01 16:06                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 15:20                     ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 15:26                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 17:23                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 17:56                             ` Stroller
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:21                                 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:24                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:59                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:03                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:09                                         ` Stroller
2013-07-31 20:02                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:31                                   ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2013-07-31 20:05                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-07-31 19:09                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:39                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:28                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:36                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 18:22                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:35                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 20:07                                   ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:38                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 21:22                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 21:43                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:25                                         ` Stroller
2013-08-01  6:12                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-01  0:09                                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-07-31 18:13                               ` [gentoo-user] " Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:45                         ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 16:49                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 16:46                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-07-30 16:16   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  9:10 ` Poncho

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