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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:23:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F9480E.3080406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc80aSS9uEHxzaVPa6T6u0nQ4d1E=1u+6C4jvqv70vZrZ1A@mail.gmail.com>

On 31/07/2013 17:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> No, because the *exact same* situation occurs for Bash completion
> scripts... and logrotate scripts... and cron jobs... and...
> 
> The devs decided (and I agree with them) that the important thing is
> to cover the necessities of the majority of users and to have
> reasonable default settings. Therefore, having USE flags for
> bash_complete, and logrotate, and crond, and systemd, and OpenRC, and
> whatever else you want to throw in the mix is overkill and a
> maintenance nightmare. Not to mention that they will require a full
> rebuild every time you changed one of those flags. And the packages
> (in general) will not care about those tiny files; they will work fine
> with all of them installed, no matter if you don't use Bash
> completion, nor logrotate, nor crond, nor systemd nor OpenRC.
> 
> So, those files are installed unconditionally. And that's the smart
> thing to do, since most users will not even care about any of them.


Folk will get MUCH larger savings if they mask html help/doc files from
being installed. Those things get to be huge.

Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
in ways they really should be keeping private.

Unless the system is embedded in which case a lot more than units are
going to be masked out


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-28  8:22 [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-29  3:30 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-29 11:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-30  7:04   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-31 18:28     ` Michael Palimaka
2013-07-30  7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30  7:47   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 16:17     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 17:53       ` covici
2013-07-30 18:06         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 22:04           ` covici
2013-07-30 22:40             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31  6:24               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-07-31  7:00                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-01  9:43                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 16:15                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  5:18                       ` covici
2013-07-31 11:34               ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 12:30                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:41                     ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:24                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-31 17:45                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 10:24                       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 11:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 15:46                           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-08-01 16:06                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 15:20                     ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 15:26                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 17:23                           ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2013-07-31 17:56                             ` Stroller
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:21                                 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:24                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:59                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:03                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:09                                         ` Stroller
2013-07-31 20:02                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:31                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-07-31 20:05                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-07-31 19:09                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:39                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:28                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:36                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 18:22                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:35                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 20:07                                   ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:38                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 21:22                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 21:43                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:25                                         ` Stroller
2013-08-01  6:12                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-01  0:09                                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-07-31 18:13                               ` [gentoo-user] " Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:45                         ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 16:49                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 16:46                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-07-30 16:16   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  9:10 ` Poncho

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