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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:35:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc82bd0r4r9COdJk=2is+6M3KWxxYCrFF0iHSOjhhLjpJyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc81LxbVF4-aXnC3VO+73Rb1vLQ6OowkWPxcLxgTZLwKeug@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
>>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
>>>> in ways they really should be keeping private.
>>>
>>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
>>>
>>> Stroller.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You are understanding it wrong. The scene being worked towards is:
>>
>> ebuilds for services will install openrc scripts in /etc/init.d
>> ebuilds for services will install unit files somewhere else.
>> Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, the
>> set in user depends on the service manager.
>>
>> There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files
>> but it's still just an idea. If it becomes more than an idea, the files
>> in /etc/init.d may or may not be dispensed with. Either way it doesn't
>> matter. Unit files are unlikely to number more than 100 total, and are
>> likely to be smaller than 1 fs allocation unit in size.
>
> 160 files in my laptop, using 652K, 122 files in a LAMP server, using 492K.
>
>> bash's man page is considerably larger than all that all by itself.
>
> bash's man page is 62K in my laptop (compressed with bzip2), 277K uncompressed.
>
> So, not quite exactly like you say, but the point remains true. The
> man pages in my laptop use more than 20 times the space used in
> /usr/lib/systemd (and that includes binaries like systemd itself and
> systemd-udev).

Oh, I just noticed that systemd-udev is a link to /sbin/udev. So add
205K more for it.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-28  8:22 [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-29  3:30 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-29 11:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-30  7:04   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-31 18:28     ` Michael Palimaka
2013-07-30  7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30  7:47   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 16:17     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 17:53       ` covici
2013-07-30 18:06         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 22:04           ` covici
2013-07-30 22:40             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31  6:24               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-07-31  7:00                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-01  9:43                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 16:15                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  5:18                       ` covici
2013-07-31 11:34               ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 12:30                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:41                     ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:24                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-31 17:45                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 10:24                       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 11:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 15:46                           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-08-01 16:06                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 15:20                     ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 15:26                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 17:23                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 17:56                             ` Stroller
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:21                                 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:24                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:59                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:03                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:09                                         ` Stroller
2013-07-31 20:02                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:31                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-07-31 20:05                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-07-31 19:09                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:39                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:28                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:36                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 18:22                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:35                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2013-07-31 20:07                                   ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:38                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 21:22                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 21:43                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:25                                         ` Stroller
2013-08-01  6:12                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-01  0:09                                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-07-31 18:13                               ` [gentoo-user] " Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:45                         ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 16:49                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 16:46                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-07-30 16:16   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  9:10 ` Poncho

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