From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:35:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc82bd0r4r9COdJk=2is+6M3KWxxYCrFF0iHSOjhhLjpJyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc81LxbVF4-aXnC3VO+73Rb1vLQ6OowkWPxcLxgTZLwKeug@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
>>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
>>>> in ways they really should be keeping private.
>>>
>>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
>>>
>>> Stroller.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You are understanding it wrong. The scene being worked towards is:
>>
>> ebuilds for services will install openrc scripts in /etc/init.d
>> ebuilds for services will install unit files somewhere else.
>> Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, the
>> set in user depends on the service manager.
>>
>> There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files
>> but it's still just an idea. If it becomes more than an idea, the files
>> in /etc/init.d may or may not be dispensed with. Either way it doesn't
>> matter. Unit files are unlikely to number more than 100 total, and are
>> likely to be smaller than 1 fs allocation unit in size.
>
> 160 files in my laptop, using 652K, 122 files in a LAMP server, using 492K.
>
>> bash's man page is considerably larger than all that all by itself.
>
> bash's man page is 62K in my laptop (compressed with bzip2), 277K uncompressed.
>
> So, not quite exactly like you say, but the point remains true. The
> man pages in my laptop use more than 20 times the space used in
> /usr/lib/systemd (and that includes binaries like systemd itself and
> systemd-udev).
Oh, I just noticed that systemd-udev is a link to /sbin/udev. So add
205K more for it.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-28 8:22 [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-29 3:30 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-29 11:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-30 7:04 ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-31 18:28 ` Michael Palimaka
2013-07-30 7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 7:47 ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 16:17 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 17:53 ` covici
2013-07-30 18:06 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 22:04 ` covici
2013-07-30 22:40 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 6:24 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-07-31 7:00 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-01 9:43 ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 16:15 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02 5:18 ` covici
2013-07-31 11:34 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 12:30 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:41 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:24 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-31 17:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 10:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 11:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 15:46 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-08-01 16:06 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 15:20 ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 15:26 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-31 15:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 17:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 17:56 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 18:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:21 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:59 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:03 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:09 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 20:02 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-07-31 20:05 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-07-31 19:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:39 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:28 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:28 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 18:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 18:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:35 ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2013-07-31 20:07 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 21:22 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 21:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:25 ` Stroller
2013-08-01 6:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-01 0:09 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-07-31 18:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:45 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 16:49 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 16:46 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-07-30 16:16 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02 9:10 ` Poncho
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