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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:22:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc81LxbVF4-aXnC3VO+73Rb1vLQ6OowkWPxcLxgTZLwKeug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F952C3.7070903@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote:
>>
>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
>>> in ways they really should be keeping private.
>>
>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
>>
>> Stroller.
>>
>>
>
> You are understanding it wrong. The scene being worked towards is:
>
> ebuilds for services will install openrc scripts in /etc/init.d
> ebuilds for services will install unit files somewhere else.
> Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, the
> set in user depends on the service manager.
>
> There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files
> but it's still just an idea. If it becomes more than an idea, the files
> in /etc/init.d may or may not be dispensed with. Either way it doesn't
> matter. Unit files are unlikely to number more than 100 total, and are
> likely to be smaller than 1 fs allocation unit in size.

160 files in my laptop, using 652K, 122 files in a LAMP server, using 492K.

> bash's man page is considerably larger than all that all by itself.

bash's man page is 62K in my laptop (compressed with bzip2), 277K uncompressed.

So, not quite exactly like you say, but the point remains true. The
man pages in my laptop use more than 20 times the space used in
/usr/lib/systemd (and that includes binaries like systemd itself and
systemd-udev).

acero ~ # du -sh /usr/share/man
82M /usr/share/man
acero ~ # du -sh /usr/lib/systemd/
3.6M /usr/lib/systemd/

And /usr/share/doc is 2.5G in my laptop.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-28  8:22 [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-29  3:30 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-29 11:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-30  7:04   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-31 18:28     ` Michael Palimaka
2013-07-30  7:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30  7:47   ` Pavel Volkov
2013-07-30 16:17     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 17:53       ` covici
2013-07-30 18:06         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-30 22:04           ` covici
2013-07-30 22:40             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31  6:24               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-07-31  7:00                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-01  9:43                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 16:15                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  5:18                       ` covici
2013-07-31 11:34               ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 12:30                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 12:41                     ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:24                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-07-31 17:45                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 10:24                       ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-08-01 11:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-01 15:46                           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-08-01 16:06                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 15:20                     ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 15:26                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-07-31 15:36                         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 17:23                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 17:56                             ` Stroller
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:21                                 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:24                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 18:59                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:03                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:09                                         ` Stroller
2013-07-31 20:02                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:31                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-07-31 20:05                                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-07-31 19:09                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 19:39                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:28                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:36                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-31 18:09                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 18:22                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2013-07-31 18:35                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-07-31 20:07                                   ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-31 18:54                                 ` Stroller
2013-07-31 19:38                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 21:22                                     ` Stroller
2013-07-31 21:43                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-31 22:25                                         ` Stroller
2013-08-01  6:12                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-01  0:09                                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-07-31 18:13                               ` [gentoo-user] " Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 15:45                         ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-31 16:49                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-31 16:46                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-07-30 16:16   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-02  9:10 ` Poncho

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