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From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:00:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <v2ge117dbb91004040900vda89faeejed76f1dac194be94@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB8A349.4070006@allenjb.me.uk>

On 4 April 2010 16:33, AllenJB <gentoo-lists@allenjb.me.uk> wrote:
> I'd like to ask what you think in launching a site that simply clones an
> existing site is? Why take all the hard work the editors have put into
> their articles on the unofficial wiki and duplicate them on another
> site, creating TWO copies, both of which may be updated with different
> information.

Starting a wiki under the Gentoo umbrella is not about duplicating
effort. It is about providing services that we currently don't and
for which there is an apparent need.

First and foremost it is about providing developers a place for easy
(collaborative) editing of documents, so they wouldn't have to resort
to either less practical solutions within gentoo.org, or external
resources not under gentoo.org.

Secondly, this would be a good place to centralize efforts by both
users and developers to collaborate on generating, consolidating and
maintaining documentation. Currently these are scattered over a
number of places, as Dror has mentioned. We do not want to duplicate
effort, but work together to bring the various efforts as much as
possible into one place, a one-stop shop for all good and relevant
information about Gentoo.

> any site I find copying articles I've
> contributed to (and certainly the ones I wrote from scratch) will suffer
> all the wrath and abuse I can bring to it.

Then you shouldn't contribute to a wiki that has a license that
allows just that.

> An official wiki should not be used to duplicate the existing unofficial
> wiki (and I don't believe this is the intent of the developers who want
> one).

Not duplicate, but centralize and facilitate more collaboration. And
give it more recognition and better quality control. And host it on
the number one community site we have: gentoo.org, with all the
infrastructure support that entails.

Cheers,
-- 
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux Qt project lead developer



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-04 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03 13:19 [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 13:40 ` Dror Levin
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-04-03 14:36     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:41       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-03 15:03   ` Nathan Zachary
2010-04-03 17:40   ` AllenJB
2010-04-03 18:56     ` George Prowse
2010-04-03 19:04       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 23:19       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10  4:10         ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 11:55           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 12:06           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-10 15:25             ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 15:40               ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 17:18                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 18:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-10 18:26                     ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-04-11  9:52                       ` Duncan
2010-04-11  3:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Nagel
2010-04-10 18:04               ` Vincent Launchbury
2010-04-10 19:23                 ` Dale
2010-04-11  4:35                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-14  2:03                 ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 13:35           ` George Prowse
2010-04-11  1:08             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-03 14:04 ` Guy Fontaine
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 15:25   ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-03 14:30 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 14:46   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:37     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  1:20       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  7:31         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04  8:29           ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-04  8:47             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04 12:26               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  8:48           ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  8:54             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  9:10             ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 12:31             ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:54               ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  9:01           ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 10:35           ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 13:43           ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04 14:15           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 14:33             ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 14:47               ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 15:13                 ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 15:36                   ` dev-random
2010-04-04 15:39                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:08                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 22:45                   ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 22:21                     ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 23:11                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:36                       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 16:00               ` Ben de Groot [this message]
2010-04-04 15:23           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 19:33             ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04 19:46               ` George Prowse
2010-04-05  0:08               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:13                 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-05  2:43                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  5:04                     ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-05  5:05                       ` Arun Raghavan
2010-06-07 12:27                     ` Ed W
2010-06-07 12:19           ` Ed W
2010-04-04  9:30       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 19:13 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 23:44 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-05  0:02 ` Alistair Bush
2010-04-05  0:25   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  4:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-05  0:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Matti Bickel
2010-04-05  2:01 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-05  3:02   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-03 20:44 ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-06-03 22:49   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-04  3:53     ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-06-04  4:52       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-04  5:51       ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
2010-06-04  8:12         ` Markos Chandras
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-04  0:11 [gentoo-dev] " Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04  0:24 ` Sebastian Pipping

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