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From: AllenJB <gentoo-lists@allenjb.me.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:40:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB77D99.3090105@allenjb.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <h2w2becdd071004030640k6b15a474ze763288d681e67a1@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/04/10 14:40, Dror Levin wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> 2 - maintainers
>> ===============
>>
>> Who is volunteering for maintaining the wiki? We need editors and
>> moderators, people who look out for quality control and take care of
>> spam removal. So let's get together a team. I'm sure if we ask on the
>> forums we'll get some users interested as well.
> I volunteer. Spam shouldn't be that much of an issue if editing is
> restricted to registered users, but it is a good idea to have a team
> of moderators similar to the one that exists for the forums (of course
> users can take part of it as well as developers).
> 
Most of the spam on gentoo-wiki.com comes from registered accounts.
Requiring registration does not stop most wiki spam. Very little of the
spam comes in from unregistered editors.


On gentoo-wiki.com we currently use a combination of anti-spam tools,
which seems to work best. The main 2, from a day-to-day administration
view are the url blacklist and manual removal of spam and associated
accounts.

You could require email authentication first, but I believe this is
unlikely to reduce spam - creating a setup that automatically deals with
account verification emails is trivial and throwaway accounts are too
easy to get hold of.

In addition I believe it would reduce the amount of positive
contribution more than it reduces spam - I believe people often want to
make quick, small corrections / additions and telling them to "come back
later" is going to be the same as telling them "go away".

I would highly recommend using MediaWiki as, at least from my
experience, it's the most prevalent of the wiki setups available. While
this may bring some disadvantages (number of spam attempts (tho I'm
nottotally convinced you'll get less than any other web form out there),
etc), it also brings the advantages of being well developed with a wide
variety of plugins, lots of wiki syntax guides / tutorials you can point
users to and a wide userbase with existing knowledge of the syntax.

AllenJB



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-03 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03 13:19 [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 13:40 ` Dror Levin
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-04-03 14:36     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:41       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-03 15:03   ` Nathan Zachary
2010-04-03 17:40   ` AllenJB [this message]
2010-04-03 18:56     ` George Prowse
2010-04-03 19:04       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 23:19       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10  4:10         ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 11:55           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 12:06           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-10 15:25             ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 15:40               ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 17:18                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 18:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-10 18:26                     ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-04-11  9:52                       ` Duncan
2010-04-11  3:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Nagel
2010-04-10 18:04               ` Vincent Launchbury
2010-04-10 19:23                 ` Dale
2010-04-11  4:35                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-14  2:03                 ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 13:35           ` George Prowse
2010-04-11  1:08             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-03 14:04 ` Guy Fontaine
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 15:25   ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-03 14:30 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 14:46   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:37     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  1:20       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  7:31         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04  8:29           ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-04  8:47             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04 12:26               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  8:48           ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  8:54             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  9:10             ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 12:31             ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:54               ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  9:01           ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 10:35           ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 13:43           ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04 14:15           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 14:33             ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 14:47               ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 15:13                 ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 15:36                   ` dev-random
2010-04-04 15:39                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:08                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 22:45                   ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 22:21                     ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 23:11                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:36                       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 16:00               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 15:23           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 19:33             ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04 19:46               ` George Prowse
2010-04-05  0:08               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:13                 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-05  2:43                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  5:04                     ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-05  5:05                       ` Arun Raghavan
2010-06-07 12:27                     ` Ed W
2010-06-07 12:19           ` Ed W
2010-04-04  9:30       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 19:13 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 23:44 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-05  0:02 ` Alistair Bush
2010-04-05  0:25   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  4:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-05  0:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Matti Bickel
2010-04-05  2:01 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-05  3:02   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-03 20:44 ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-06-03 22:49   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-04  3:53     ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-06-04  4:52       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-04  5:51       ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
2010-06-04  8:12         ` Markos Chandras
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-04  0:11 [gentoo-dev] " Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04  0:24 ` Sebastian Pipping

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