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From: AllenJB <gentoo-lists@allenjb.me.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:13:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB8AC8F.4010708@allenjb.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <n2k2becdd071004040747tafff7049i4ef225c5cfe6fd15@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/04/10 15:47, Dror Levin wrote:
> Creating just another wiki is what's pointless. What I want is to
> deprecate all unofficial wikis (there are others besides
> gentoo-wiki.com) which were created simply because there never was an
> official one and creating chaos, then centralize everything in one
> official wiki, and build on top of that. Fix the historic mistake.
> Concentrating information from the forums and various wikis is just
> the first step.
> This should be the goal of all of us, yours as well. Who wants to run
> around all over the internet trying to find relevant information on
> various forums, wikis, blogs, etc. when an official wiki can remedy a
> big part of that, making it easier to find what you're searching for.
> Instead of being scattered around, we want everything in one place,
> that's how it can be made even better.
> 
> Dror Levin
> 
The unofficial wiki may have been created because there wasn't an
official one, but that doesn't mean it's any less of a community in its
own right.

Starting the official wiki by effectively ripping off others work and
attempting to destroy existing user communities is NOT the right way to
go about things, in my opinion (and losing the editing history of those
articles in the process).

You should first try to start your wiki/community and make it a
community in its own right, rather than trying to steal/destroy/rip off
existing communities.

My personal goal is to continue to maintain an existing community full
of useful documentation, already concentrated in one place. The
unofficial wiki avoids duplication by pointing to existing documentation
where ever possible.

The search problem is already dealt with by Google, so that's no reason
to go about ripping off other peoples work.

With your aims in mind, I don't see the point in duplicating existing
material, creating TWO places you have to check to see what's been updated.

If an "official wiki" starts up and becomes a major documentation centre
for user contributions, then I may consider moving my articles over, but
until that time I currently intend to maintain them in place, with their
complete history in tact.

AllenJB



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-04 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03 13:19 [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 13:40 ` Dror Levin
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-04-03 14:36     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:41       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-03 15:03   ` Nathan Zachary
2010-04-03 17:40   ` AllenJB
2010-04-03 18:56     ` George Prowse
2010-04-03 19:04       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 23:19       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10  4:10         ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 11:55           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-10 12:06           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-10 15:25             ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 15:40               ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 17:18                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-10 18:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-10 18:26                     ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-04-11  9:52                       ` Duncan
2010-04-11  3:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Nagel
2010-04-10 18:04               ` Vincent Launchbury
2010-04-10 19:23                 ` Dale
2010-04-11  4:35                 ` William Hubbs
2010-04-14  2:03                 ` George Prowse
2010-04-10 13:35           ` George Prowse
2010-04-11  1:08             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-03 14:04 ` Guy Fontaine
2010-04-03 14:12   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 15:25   ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-03 14:30 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 14:46   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-03 23:37     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  1:20       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  7:31         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04  8:29           ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-04  8:47             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04 12:26               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04  8:48           ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  8:54             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-04  9:10             ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 12:31             ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:54               ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-04-04  9:01           ` Alex Legler
2010-04-04 10:35           ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 13:43           ` Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04 14:15           ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 14:33             ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 14:47               ` Dror Levin
2010-04-04 15:13                 ` AllenJB [this message]
2010-04-04 15:36                   ` dev-random
2010-04-04 15:39                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 16:08                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 22:45                   ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 22:21                     ` AllenJB
2010-04-04 23:11                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:36                       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-04-04 16:00               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 15:23           ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-04 19:33             ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-04 19:46               ` George Prowse
2010-04-05  0:08               ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  1:13                 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-04-05  2:43                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  5:04                     ` Arun Raghavan
2010-04-05  5:05                       ` Arun Raghavan
2010-06-07 12:27                     ` Ed W
2010-06-07 12:19           ` Ed W
2010-04-04  9:30       ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 19:13 ` Alex Legler
2010-04-03 23:44 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-04-05  0:02 ` Alistair Bush
2010-04-05  0:25   ` Ben de Groot
2010-04-05  4:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-04-05  0:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Matti Bickel
2010-04-05  2:01 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-04-05  3:02   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-03 20:44 ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2010-06-03 22:49   ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-04  3:53     ` Tobias Scherbaum
2010-06-04  4:52       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-04  5:51       ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
2010-06-04  8:12         ` Markos Chandras
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-04  0:11 [gentoo-dev] " Sylvain Alain
2010-04-04  0:24 ` Sebastian Pipping

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