[gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

[gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

[Daniel Drake]

Hi,

I'm considering masking wolk-sources and removing it from the tree. Do any
people still have a good reason to use wolk-sources?

wolk-sources is a heavily patched Linux 2.4 kernel which lacks upstream
maintenance - the newest version being based on Linux 2.4.20.

Any objections?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

[Lance Albertson]

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On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 00:47 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm considering masking wolk-sources and removing it from the tree. Do any
> people still have a good reason to use wolk-sources?
> 
> wolk-sources is a heavily patched Linux 2.4 kernel which lacks upstream
> maintenance - the newest version being based on Linux 2.4.20.
> 
> Any objections?

I was actually just thinking about WOLK today and how I never got around
to putting the newest builds in the tree. For now keep them in there.
I'll email upstream to see if whats the status on development for WOLK
these days. The mailing lists have been quiet for the most part, so
we'll see. It may be based on 2.4.20 but its no where near to what
2.4.20 is ;). Its closer to a 2.6 kernel by now with its latest
versions.

Infra currently decommissioned to the two boxes we were running WOLK on,
so we don't currently have a need for it from that side of things.

I'll report back when I find out whats going on!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

[Daniel Drake]

Lance Albertson wrote:
> I was actually just thinking about WOLK today and how I never got around
> to putting the newest builds in the tree. For now keep them in there.
> I'll email upstream to see if whats the status on development for WOLK
> these days. The mailing lists have been quiet for the most part, so
> we'll see. It may be based on 2.4.20 but its no where near to what
> 2.4.20 is ;). Its closer to a 2.6 kernel by now with its latest
> versions.

2.4.20 came out in 2002. You'd have thought they might base it off something
newer by now...

> Infra currently decommissioned to the two boxes we were running WOLK on,
> so we don't currently have a need for it from that side of things.
> 
> I'll report back when I find out whats going on!

Ok. The main issue is that keeping old kernels around is a maintenance
nightmare with the security patches, etc. Also, this kernel is so heavily
patched that it would be impossible for us to support it. On top of that,
there doesn't seem to be any demand for it - we have only ever had a few bug
reports for it, and we've never recieved a bump request for the latest version
which is months behind the last official release.

I'll at least be cleaning out the two older versions (4.9-r21 and 4.11-r17)
over the next few days.

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

[Lance Albertson]

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On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 12:04 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> > I was actually just thinking about WOLK today and how I never got around
> > to putting the newest builds in the tree. For now keep them in there.
> > I'll email upstream to see if whats the status on development for WOLK
> > these days. The mailing lists have been quiet for the most part, so
> > we'll see. It may be based on 2.4.20 but its no where near to what
> > 2.4.20 is ;). Its closer to a 2.6 kernel by now with its latest
> > versions.
> 
> 2.4.20 came out in 2002. You'd have thought they might base it off something
> newer by now...

I'm not sure why he did it that way. I know he essentially patched in
the later versions (crazy I know).

> > Infra currently decommissioned to the two boxes we were running WOLK on,
> > so we don't currently have a need for it from that side of things.
> > 
> > I'll report back when I find out whats going on!
> 
> Ok. The main issue is that keeping old kernels around is a maintenance
> nightmare with the security patches, etc. Also, this kernel is so heavily
> patched that it would be impossible for us to support it. On top of that,
> there doesn't seem to be any demand for it - we have only ever had a few bug
> reports for it, and we've never recieved a bump request for the latest version
> which is months behind the last official release.
> 
> I'll at least be cleaning out the two older versions (4.9-r21 and 4.11-r17)
> over the next few days.

Yeah, I agree sadly. Since I haven't seen much activity on their devel
lists I'd have to say things have pretty much stopped. Give me a few
days to see if we get a response from the upstream author as to the
status of the project before we totally axe it.

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