* [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. @ 2012-04-22 6:21 Samuli Suominen 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-22 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev-announce, gentoo-dev # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # One of the last packages still using the obsolete pyxml package # Masked for removal in 30 days wrt bug 367739 <app-pda/libopensync-plugin-google-calendar-0.39 # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # Masked for removal in 30 days for using the obsolete xulrunner # package wrt #412875 and #403415 app-text/chmsee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-22 6:21 [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber 2012-04-28 12:20 ` Ben ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael Weber @ 2012-04-28 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 According to upstreams homepage [1], the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0. @dirtyepic: Any chance to bump the version in portage? I can take a look (and grab this package). Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I wouldn't want to loose this possibility. Thanks, Michael [1] http://code.google.com/p/chmsee/ On 04/22/2012 08:21 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # One of the > last packages still using the obsolete pyxml package # Masked for > removal in 30 days wrt bug 367739 > <app-pda/libopensync-plugin-google-calendar-0.39 > > # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # Masked for > removal in 30 days for using the obsolete xulrunner # package wrt > #412875 and #403415 app-text/chmsee > - -- - -- Gentoo Dev http://xmw.de/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk+bw9MACgkQknrdDGLu8JA92AD+OX0PrpAfmeBnYTZX2N50FKPb eWM/uueFFhBS9EFQxvUA/0vZkVfz2G/wdx7q9SQ8Vzx3ImomMbyOJc1iWn7lofxe =IzMJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber @ 2012-04-28 12:20 ` Ben 2012-04-28 14:15 ` Michał Górny ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Ben @ 2012-04-28 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 28 April 2012 18:17, Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote: > Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I > wouldn't want to loose this possibility. app-text/kchmviewer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber 2012-04-28 12:20 ` Ben @ 2012-04-28 14:15 ` Michał Górny 2012-04-29 10:54 ` Samuli Suominen 2012-05-03 3:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Michał Górny @ 2012-04-28 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: xmw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 261 bytes --] On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200 Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote: > Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I > wouldn't want to loose this possibility. The one and only FBReader? -- Best regards, Michał Górny [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 316 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber 2012-04-28 12:20 ` Ben 2012-04-28 14:15 ` Michał Górny @ 2012-04-29 10:54 ` Samuli Suominen 2012-04-29 11:42 ` Pacho Ramos 2012-05-03 3:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-29 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > According to upstreams homepage [1], > the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0. There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0. There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it. So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml. - Samuli ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-29 10:54 ` Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-29 11:42 ` Pacho Ramos 2012-04-30 19:00 ` Samuli Suominen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Pacho Ramos @ 2012-04-29 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 933 bytes --] El dom, 29-04-2012 a las 13:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > According to upstreams homepage [1], > > the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0. > > There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0. > > There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and > our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it. > > So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something > else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml. > > - Samuli > > The problem is that looks like other major distributions are still providing xulrunner (from firefox): http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=xulrunner.git;a=tree http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/src-oss/suse/src/xulrunner-12.0-1.1.src.rpm http://packages.debian.org/sid/xulrunner-10.0 [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-29 11:42 ` Pacho Ramos @ 2012-04-30 19:00 ` Samuli Suominen 2012-04-30 19:27 ` Stelian Ionescu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-30 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 04/29/2012 02:42 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 29-04-2012 a las 13:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: >> On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> According to upstreams homepage [1], >>> the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0. >> >> There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0. >> >> There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and >> our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it. >> >> So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something >> else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml. >> >> - Samuli >> >> > > The problem is that looks like other major distributions are still > providing xulrunner (from firefox): > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=xulrunner.git;a=tree > http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/src-oss/suse/src/xulrunner-12.0-1.1.src.rpm > http://packages.debian.org/sid/xulrunner-10.0 > > The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or spidermonkey instead". Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk. So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this. So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'. - Samuli ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-30 19:00 ` Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-30 19:27 ` Stelian Ionescu 2012-04-30 19:33 ` Samuli Suominen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Stelian Ionescu @ 2012-04-30 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 870 bytes --] On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 22:00 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: [...] > The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it > to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or > spidermonkey instead". > > Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have > happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk. > > So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** > something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the > Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this. > So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'. Upstream doesn't support it, but Debian, Fedora, openSuse and other distros do so the maintenance work would be shared -- Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-30 19:27 ` Stelian Ionescu @ 2012-04-30 19:33 ` Samuli Suominen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Samuli Suominen @ 2012-04-30 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 04/30/2012 10:27 PM, Stelian Ionescu wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 22:00 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > [...] >> The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it >> to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or >> spidermonkey instead". >> >> Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have >> happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk. >> >> So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** >> something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the >> Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this. >> So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'. > > Upstream doesn't support it, but Debian, Fedora, openSuse and other > distros do so the maintenance work would be shared > Debian, Fedora, and OpenSUSE as non-rolling distributions need to keep Firefox up-to-date for security. I suspect this is the main reason they have ended up rolling this type of xulrunner package. (For backward compat.) We don't really have that "problem", as we can stabilize things much faster, and phase out xulrunner and it's consumers much faster. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-04-28 10:17 ` Michael Weber ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2012-04-29 10:54 ` Samuli Suominen @ 2012-05-03 3:39 ` Ryan Hill 2012-05-03 20:53 ` Michael Weber 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ryan Hill @ 2012-05-03 3:39 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 995 bytes --] On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200 Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > According to upstreams homepage [1], > the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0. > > @dirtyepic: Any chance to bump the version in portage? > I can take a look (and grab this package). From the bug report it sounded like xulrunner is going away completely. > Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I > wouldn't want to loose this possibility. I also maintain kchmviewer and xchm and I think there are a couple other non-dedicated readers that support it. Are there any features chmsee has that these are missing? I added chmsee to replace gnochm but I don't think I've ever used it. I use xchm for my collection. It's tech books and manuals though, nothing too extravagant. It doesn't release often but upstream is responsive. -- fonts, gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets @ gentoo.org [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. 2012-05-03 3:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill @ 2012-05-03 20:53 ` Michael Weber 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael Weber @ 2012-05-03 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 05/03/2012 05:39 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200 Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> > wrote: >> Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm >> ebooks? I wouldn't want to loose this possibility. > > I also maintain kchmviewer and xchm and I think there are a couple > other non-dedicated readers that support it. Are there any features > chmsee has that these are missing? I added chmsee to replace gnochm > but I don't think I've ever used it. I use xchm for my collection. > It's tech books and manuals though, nothing too extravagant. It > doesn't release often but upstream is responsive. xchm looks good, thanks for the hint. - -- - -- Gentoo Dev http://xmw.de/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk+i8D0ACgkQknrdDGLu8JBvpQEAmuVY1ngQQPjnflJvJDVoYjM6 byeXXZtqxQLo5PgFR24BAIXc0RSeqZt4lwxZc76rwaNoACnJWHkRll2adNBAOjIN =x8Ua -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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