From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SOwOs-00036t-Im for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:36:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E41E4E0C23; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6657FE0C21 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.169.7.5] (212-226-74-52-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [212.226.74.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D14E1B4092 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F9EE90D.7030003@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:33:33 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120406 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar. References: <4F93A360.80803@gentoo.org> <4F9BC3D3.2090309@gentoo.org> <4F9D1DFA.7050204@gentoo.org> <1335699721.18263.0.camel@belkin4> <4F9EE13B.4070705@gentoo.org> <1335814067.26630.3.camel@cathai> In-Reply-To: <1335814067.26630.3.camel@cathai> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b80c2438-649d-4d37-86fd-7e7c60d02cda X-Archives-Hash: cba5a6096dd929eddb425c84ac85ec8f On 04/30/2012 10:27 PM, Stelian Ionescu wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 22:00 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > [...] >> The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it >> to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or >> spidermonkey instead". >> >> Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have >> happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk. >> >> So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** >> something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the >> Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this. >> So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'. > > Upstream doesn't support it, but Debian, Fedora, openSuse and other > distros do so the maintenance work would be shared > Debian, Fedora, and OpenSUSE as non-rolling distributions need to keep Firefox up-to-date for security. I suspect this is the main reason they have ended up rolling this type of xulrunner package. (For backward compat.) We don't really have that "problem", as we can stabilize things much faster, and phase out xulrunner and it's consumers much faster.