* [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team @ 2005-06-28 22:41 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh 2005-06-28 23:09 ` Peter Johanson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh @ 2005-06-28 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev Comrades! Once more, I come before you with sad tidings. Evil anti-gentoo conspirators are plotting to destroy our wonderful distribution. Yet again they tried to subvert quality and integrity of our distribution by falsely claiming that certain packages build and run *gasp* stable *gasp* on platforms said saboteurs apparently do not even have access to. This time many packages in dev-dotnet were marked testing / stable on all arches, but thanks to the valiant struggles of our tireless arch teams, at least SPARC and MIPS have now been rescued from the iniquity of the apostate traitors on the x86 monoarchist payroll. Other arches have also been warned, and hopefully will be in time to save themselves, or at least recover the damages in timely manner. Comrades! For how long will we tolerate these wreckers among us? How much more patience shall we show? It is about time to stop such behavior once and for all! Let us join against the forces of evil and deal it a crushing defeat! Death to vermin! -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-28 22:41 [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh @ 2005-06-28 23:09 ` Peter Johanson 2005-06-28 23:30 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Peter Johanson @ 2005-06-28 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:41:37PM -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Comrades! > > Once more, I come before you with sad tidings. Evil anti-gentoo > conspirators are plotting to destroy our > wonderful distribution. Yet again they tried to subvert quality and > integrity of our distribution by falsely > claiming that certain packages build and run *gasp* stable *gasp* on > platforms said saboteurs apparently > do not even have access to. > > This time many packages in dev-dotnet were marked testing / stable on > all arches, but thanks to the > valiant struggles of our tireless arch teams, at least SPARC and MIPS > have now been rescued from the > iniquity of the apostate traitors on the x86 monoarchist payroll. Other > arches have also been warned, and > hopefully will be in time to save themselves, or at least recover the > damages in timely manner. > > Comrades! > > For how long will we tolerate these wreckers among us? How much more > patience shall we show? > It is about time to stop such behavior once and for all! Let us join > against the forces of evil and deal > it a crushing defeat! > > Death to vermin! I know this is intended to be tongue in cheek, but I have a dev in the dotnet herd who's really pretty upset right now as a result of such apparently scathing comments accusing him of being an evil conspirator, a wrecker, and traitor, when it wasn't even *him* who introduced the keywords in question, he did a by the book bump moving arch -> ~arch for all arches listed in keywords. I understand that this is a consistent problem, and that we constantly have to deal with breakages like this, but please don't send emails like this with so many accusations without at least talking to the herd lead, or viewing CVS history first. I like dealing with the mess of pissed off and enflamed developers as much as the arch teams like dealing with bad QA, so next time, please use at least a *little* subtlty before blowing things up. Anyway, I'm glad all the arch teams, who are the one's that never screw up and save us all, are fixing things. </sarcasm> -pete > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > -- Peter Johanson <latexer@gentoo.org> -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-28 23:09 ` Peter Johanson @ 2005-06-28 23:30 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh 2005-06-29 9:45 ` Chris Bainbridge 2005-06-29 14:02 ` Chris Gianelloni 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh @ 2005-06-28 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev Peter Johanson wrote: >I know this is intended to be tongue in cheek, > Good. > but I have a dev in the >dotnet herd who's really pretty upset right now as a result of such >apparently scathing comments accusing him of being an evil conspirator, >a wrecker, and traitor, when it wasn't even *him* who introduced the >keywords in question, he did a by the book bump moving arch -> ~arch for >all arches listed in keywords. > > Book in question sort of presumes that ones who change keywords *personally* tested that package in question works. You set keyword, you sign the life of your first-born that it will work. Or at least that's the way it should be. >I understand that this is a consistent problem, and that we constantly >have to deal with breakages like this, but please don't send emails >like this with so many accusations without at least talking to the herd >lead, or viewing CVS history first. > > This *is* a consistent problem. But it shouldn't be. QA. Should. Be. Done. >I like dealing with the mess of pissed off and enflamed developers as >much as the arch teams like dealing with bad QA, so next time, please >use at least a *little* subtlty before blowing things up. > > Grow up people, I didn't even say names. To say more - I'm far more upset about person who introduced keywords. >Anyway, I'm glad all the arch teams, who are the one's that never screw >up and save us all, are fixing things. > > Yeap. What would you do without us. At least I get yelled at only once for technical mistakes I make. ></sarcasm> > > Oh, since we have to indicate jokes/sarcasm now: LOPATA. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-28 23:30 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh @ 2005-06-29 9:45 ` Chris Bainbridge 2005-06-29 9:53 ` Henrik Brix Andersen 2005-06-29 12:36 ` Mike Frysinger 2005-06-29 14:02 ` Chris Gianelloni 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Chris Bainbridge @ 2005-06-29 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 28/06/05, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <iluxa@gentoo.org> wrote: > Peter Johanson wrote: > > > it wasn't even *him* who introduced the > >keywords in question, he did a by the book bump moving arch -> ~arch for > >all arches listed in keywords. > > > Book in question sort of presumes that ones who change keywords > *personally* tested that package in question works. Really? I thought the policy was "When upgrading, drop all existing keywords from arch to ~arch, and leave any existing ~arch keywords intact.". -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-29 9:45 ` Chris Bainbridge @ 2005-06-29 9:53 ` Henrik Brix Andersen 2005-06-29 12:36 ` Mike Frysinger 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Henrik Brix Andersen @ 2005-06-29 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 338 bytes --] On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:45 +0000, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > Really? I thought the policy was "When upgrading, drop all existing > keywords from arch to ~arch, and leave any existing ~arch keywords > intact.". It is. Sincerely, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <brix@gentoo.org> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-29 9:45 ` Chris Bainbridge 2005-06-29 9:53 ` Henrik Brix Andersen @ 2005-06-29 12:36 ` Mike Frysinger 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Mike Frysinger @ 2005-06-29 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On Wednesday 29 June 2005 05:45 am, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > On 28/06/05, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh <iluxa@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Peter Johanson wrote: > > > it wasn't even *him* who introduced the > > >keywords in question, he did a by the book bump moving arch -> ~arch for > > >all arches listed in keywords. > > > > Book in question sort of presumes that ones who change keywords > > *personally* tested that package in question works. > > Really? I thought the policy was "When upgrading, drop all existing > keywords from arch to ~arch, and leave any existing ~arch keywords > intact.". the implied change was unstable to stable, not the other way around -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team 2005-06-28 23:30 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh 2005-06-29 9:45 ` Chris Bainbridge @ 2005-06-29 14:02 ` Chris Gianelloni 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Chris Gianelloni @ 2005-06-29 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1055 bytes --] On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 16:30 -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > > but I have a dev in the > >dotnet herd who's really pretty upset right now as a result of such > >apparently scathing comments accusing him of being an evil conspirator, > >a wrecker, and traitor, when it wasn't even *him* who introduced the > >keywords in question, he did a by the book bump moving arch -> ~arch for > >all arches listed in keywords. > > > > > Book in question sort of presumes that ones who change keywords > *personally* tested that package in question works. You set keyword, > you sign the life of your first-born that it will work. Or at least that's > the way it should be. Actually, time and time again, we have heard that if the package is already marked stable on an arch, that it is safe to change that to ~arch when doing version bumps. I know that this is the rule that I follow, and haven't had a complaint about it yet. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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