[gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Ian Zimmerman]

When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth:

!!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned on.
!!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
!!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.

 * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1', Log file:
 *  '/var/log/portage/dev-java:oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1:20180410-201117.log'
 * Package:    dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: java@gentoo.org
 * USE:        abi_x86_64 alsa amd64 elibc_glibc fontconfig kernel_linux userland_GNU
 * FEATURES:   fakeroot preserve-libs sandbox userpriv
 * Please download jre-8u162-linux-x64.tar.gz and move it to
 * /var/tmp/portage/dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1/distdir:
 * 
 *   http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html

But no matter how much I tried to please it (copying the file into a
distdir/ subdirectory, or copying it _as a file_ called distdir) I
couldn't get it to work.

OTOH, just doing what first comes to mind (putting the file in
/usr/portage/distfiles/) does work.

what the foo?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Dale]

Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth:
>
> !!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned on.
> !!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
> !!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.
>
>  * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1', Log file:
>  *  '/var/log/portage/dev-java:oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1:20180410-201117.log'
>  * Package:    dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1
>  * Repository: gentoo
>  * Maintainer: java@gentoo.org
>  * USE:        abi_x86_64 alsa amd64 elibc_glibc fontconfig kernel_linux userland_GNU
>  * FEATURES:   fakeroot preserve-libs sandbox userpriv
>  * Please download jre-8u162-linux-x64.tar.gz and move it to
>  * /var/tmp/portage/dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1/distdir:
>  * 
>  *   http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html
>
> But no matter how much I tried to please it (copying the file into a
> distdir/ subdirectory, or copying it _as a file_ called distdir) I
> couldn't get it to work.
>
> OTOH, just doing what first comes to mind (putting the file in
> /usr/portage/distfiles/) does work.
>
> what the foo?
>


It's been a long time since I had to fetch one manually but the last
time I recall doing it, I did what you did.  I stuck it in distfiles,
mine is elsewhere, and then it did its thing after that.  So, the foo
is, the ebuild may need to be reworded unless I'm missing something, and
you are missing it as well.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 21:23:46 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth:
> 
> !!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned on.
> !!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
> !!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.
> 
>  * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1', Log file:
>  * 
> '/var/log/portage/dev-java:oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1:20180410-201117.log'
> * Package:    dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1
>  * Repository: gentoo
>  * Maintainer: java@gentoo.org
>  * USE:        abi_x86_64 alsa amd64 elibc_glibc fontconfig kernel_linux
> userland_GNU * FEATURES:   fakeroot preserve-libs sandbox userpriv
>  * Please download jre-8u162-linux-x64.tar.gz and move it to
>  * /var/tmp/portage/dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1/distdir:
>  *
>  *  
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133
> 155.html
> 
> But no matter how much I tried to please it (copying the file into a
> distdir/ subdirectory, or copying it _as a file_ called distdir) I
> couldn't get it to work.
> 
> OTOH, just doing what first comes to mind (putting the file in
> /usr/portage/distfiles/) does work.
> 
> what the foo?

As Dale said, the ebuild's instruction is wrong. All such files, as far as I 
know, go into ${DISTDIR}. I've had a few of them recently and they've all 
worked that way.

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Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Jonathan Callen]

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On 04/10/2018 04:23 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth:
> 
> !!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned on.
> !!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
> !!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.
> 
>  * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1', Log file:
>  *  '/var/log/portage/dev-java:oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1:20180410-201117.log'
>  * Package:    dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1
>  * Repository: gentoo
>  * Maintainer: java@gentoo.org
>  * USE:        abi_x86_64 alsa amd64 elibc_glibc fontconfig kernel_linux userland_GNU
>  * FEATURES:   fakeroot preserve-libs sandbox userpriv
>  * Please download jre-8u162-linux-x64.tar.gz and move it to
>  * /var/tmp/portage/dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1/distdir:
>  * 
>  *   http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html
> 
> But no matter how much I tried to please it (copying the file into a
> distdir/ subdirectory, or copying it _as a file_ called distdir) I
> couldn't get it to work.
> 
> OTOH, just doing what first comes to mind (putting the file in
> /usr/portage/distfiles/) does work.
> 
> what the foo?
> 

The problem is that Portage now changes the value of the "${DISTDIR}"
environment variable inside an ebuild to a temporary directory it
creates and fills with symlinks to the real distfiles in your actual
${DISTDIR}.  The message in the ebuild was written before this change
happened and directly references the "${DISTDIR}" environment variable,
assuming it to still have the value you specified in make.conf.  As you
figured out, the correct action is to install the file in your real
${DISTDIR}, but the ebuild no longer has access to determine what the
name of that directory should be.

This probably should be reported as a bug.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[J. Roeleveld]

On April 10, 2018 8:23:46 PM UTC, Ian Zimmerman <itz@very.loosely.org> wrote:
>When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth:
>
>!!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned
>on.
>!!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
>!!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.
>
> * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1', Log file:
>* 
>'/var/log/portage/dev-java:oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1:20180410-201117.log'
> * Package:    dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1
> * Repository: gentoo
> * Maintainer: java@gentoo.org
>* USE:        abi_x86_64 alsa amd64 elibc_glibc fontconfig kernel_linux
>userland_GNU
> * FEATURES:   fakeroot preserve-libs sandbox userpriv
> * Please download jre-8u162-linux-x64.tar.gz and move it to
> * /var/tmp/portage/dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1/distdir:
> * 
>*  
>http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html
>
>But no matter how much I tried to please it (copying the file into a
>distdir/ subdirectory, or copying it _as a file_ called distdir) I
>couldn't get it to work.
>
>OTOH, just doing what first comes to mind (putting the file in
>/usr/portage/distfiles/) does work.
>
>what the foo?

Sounds like a bug.
All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)

I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than my distfiles dir.

Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
> Sounds like a bug.
> All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)
>
> I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than my distfiles dir.
>
> Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.
>
> --
> Joost


Picking random post to reply to so anyone can respond to this question. 
I recall years ago there was talk of moving distfiles and such to a
directory in /var on new installs at least.  At the time, I moved mine
to /var/cache/portage.  I seem to recall that another location ended up
being picked.  Does anyone recall if the move ever did occur and if so,
where it went?  I recall reading about it but can't recall what was
final on it or if it ended up being moved at all. 

Thanks to whoever has elephant memory.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[R0b0t1]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like a bug.
>> All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)
>>
>> I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than my distfiles dir.
>>
>> Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>
>
> Picking random post to reply to so anyone can respond to this question.
> I recall years ago there was talk of moving distfiles and such to a
> directory in /var on new installs at least.  At the time, I moved mine
> to /var/cache/portage.  I seem to recall that another location ended up
> being picked.  Does anyone recall if the move ever did occur and if so,
> where it went?  I recall reading about it but can't recall what was
> final on it or if it ended up being moved at all.
>

Do you mean /usr/portage/distfiles?

Can we stop using Oracle's JVM?

Cheers,
     R0b0t1

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Dale]

R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> Sounds like a bug.
>>> All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)
>>>
>>> I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than my distfiles dir.
>>>
>>> Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>
>> Picking random post to reply to so anyone can respond to this question.
>> I recall years ago there was talk of moving distfiles and such to a
>> directory in /var on new installs at least.  At the time, I moved mine
>> to /var/cache/portage.  I seem to recall that another location ended up
>> being picked.  Does anyone recall if the move ever did occur and if so,
>> where it went?  I recall reading about it but can't recall what was
>> final on it or if it ended up being moved at all.
>>
> Do you mean /usr/portage/distfiles?
>
> Can we stop using Oracle's JVM?
>
> Cheers,
>      R0b0t1
>
>


I think that is where they were talking about moving it from.  At one
point, they were discussing putting it in /var somewhere.  Maybe they
decided not to move it at all.  I seem to recall there being a quite
active and lengthy thread about it on -dev but that was years ago.  I
don't think my archives go back that far. 

Oh well.  I was just curious.  Mine is in /var/cache/portage/.  At the
time, that I think had the most support.  Either way, it works for me
and it can be put pretty much anywhere sensible. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 11:27:39 BST Dale wrote:
> R0b0t1 wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >>> Sounds like a bug.
> >>> All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles
> >>> folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)
> >>> 
> >>> I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if
> >>> other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than
> >>> my distfiles dir.
> >>> 
> >>> Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Joost
> >> 
> >> Picking random post to reply to so anyone can respond to this question.
> >> I recall years ago there was talk of moving distfiles and such to a
> >> directory in /var on new installs at least.  At the time, I moved mine
> >> to /var/cache/portage.  I seem to recall that another location ended up
> >> being picked.  Does anyone recall if the move ever did occur and if so,
> >> where it went?  I recall reading about it but can't recall what was
> >> final on it or if it ended up being moved at all.
> > 
> > Do you mean /usr/portage/distfiles?
> > 
> > Can we stop using Oracle's JVM?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >      R0b0t1
> 
> I think that is where they were talking about moving it from.  At one
> point, they were discussing putting it in /var somewhere.  Maybe they
> decided not to move it at all.  I seem to recall there being a quite
> active and lengthy thread about it on -dev but that was years ago.  I
> don't think my archives go back that far. 
> 
> Oh well.  I was just curious.  Mine is in /var/cache/portage/.  At the
> time, that I think had the most support.  Either way, it works for me
> and it can be put pretty much anywhere sensible. 

Especially if you have separate partitions, as I do. Portage, packages and 
distfiles can be mounted anywhere with simple changes to fstab and make.conf. 
That makes the debates over what should live where somewhat moot.

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Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 11:27:39 BST Dale wrote:
>> R0b0t1 wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>>> Sounds like a bug.
>>>>> All fetch restriction packages I encounter want it in your distfiles
>>>>> folder. (Wherever you configured it to be)
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't really read the text on these myself lately, so not sure if
>>>>> other packages have the same, but I didn't notice any path other than
>>>>> my distfiles dir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most common one I have is the citrix 'icaclient'.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joost
>>>> Picking random post to reply to so anyone can respond to this question.
>>>> I recall years ago there was talk of moving distfiles and such to a
>>>> directory in /var on new installs at least.  At the time, I moved mine
>>>> to /var/cache/portage.  I seem to recall that another location ended up
>>>> being picked.  Does anyone recall if the move ever did occur and if so,
>>>> where it went?  I recall reading about it but can't recall what was
>>>> final on it or if it ended up being moved at all.
>>> Do you mean /usr/portage/distfiles?
>>>
>>> Can we stop using Oracle's JVM?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>      R0b0t1
>> I think that is where they were talking about moving it from.  At one
>> point, they were discussing putting it in /var somewhere.  Maybe they
>> decided not to move it at all.  I seem to recall there being a quite
>> active and lengthy thread about it on -dev but that was years ago.  I
>> don't think my archives go back that far. 
>>
>> Oh well.  I was just curious.  Mine is in /var/cache/portage/.  At the
>> time, that I think had the most support.  Either way, it works for me
>> and it can be put pretty much anywhere sensible. 
> Especially if you have separate partitions, as I do. Portage, packages and 
> distfiles can be mounted anywhere with simple changes to fstab and make.conf. 
> That makes the debates over what should live where somewhat moot.
>


Exactly.  At some point I needed to move it because packages was taking
up a lot of drive space.  I don't think I was using LVM back then.  I
did have a good size /var partition tho so it fit nicely there.  I keep
binaries of everything just in case something bad happens and I need to
go back quickly or easily or both.  Thing is, some of those are pretty
large and tend to get larger with each upgrade.  Once a partition gets
to about 80% or so full, I start making plans to make them larger.  I
used to have to boot a DVD/USB stick and have a spare hard drive to do
that but LVM makes that easier.  Everyone doesn't have that option tho. 

Sometimes I wish I had elephant memory but then again, I may not like
that either.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 04/11/2018 06:27 AM, Dale wrote:
> 
> I think that is where they were talking about moving it from.  At one
> point, they were discussing putting it in /var somewhere.  Maybe they
> decided not to move it at all.  I seem to recall there being a quite
> active and lengthy thread about it on -dev but that was years ago.  I
> don't think my archives go back that far. 
> 

It never worked. None of the better options had 100% support, so we left
it in the worst place of all, with which everyone is equally unhappy =)

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Dale]

Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 04/11/2018 06:27 AM, Dale wrote:
>> I think that is where they were talking about moving it from.  At one
>> point, they were discussing putting it in /var somewhere.  Maybe they
>> decided not to move it at all.  I seem to recall there being a quite
>> active and lengthy thread about it on -dev but that was years ago.  I
>> don't think my archives go back that far. 
>>
> It never worked. None of the better options had 100% support, so we left
> it in the worst place of all, with which everyone is equally unhappy =)
>
>


Maybe that is why I don't recall the end result, there wasn't one. 
lol   Still, all one has to do is move it and change make.conf.  I was
just curious as to where the default was. 

Thanks for having better memory than I did on this.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2018-04-11 01:08, R0b0t1 wrote:

> Can we stop using Oracle's JVM?

An ever recurring question, and of course one that should be asked.

What is the alternative?  icedtea is the _same_ VM, just built
differently.  And building it from source requires cups, which I don't
want on my system.  Also, at this point I don't feel any better about
using a RH backed package than an Oracle one.

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