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* [gentoo-user] removal of esound
@ 2012-01-09  2:51 Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09  3:25 ` Dale
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09  2:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Greetings,

'emerge -pv -uDN world' just showed me this:

!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- media-sound/esound-0.2.41::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@gentoo.org> (04 Jan 2012)
# Outdated and unused sound daemon. Why is this still in the tree?
# Removal of esd and deps in 30 days.
# In exceptional cases, you may use Pulseaudio's esound wrapper.

Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
SeaMonkey?

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] removal of esound
  2012-01-09  2:51 [gentoo-user] removal of esound Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09  3:25 ` Dale
  2012-01-09  4:20   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09  3:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-09  3:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> 'emerge -pv -uDN world' just showed me this:
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - media-sound/esound-0.2.41::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Nirbheek Chauhan<nirbheek@gentoo.org>  (04 Jan 2012)
> # Outdated and unused sound daemon. Why is this still in the tree?
> # Removal of esd and deps in 30 days.
> # In exceptional cases, you may use Pulseaudio's esound wrapper.
>
> Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
> notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
> so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
> SeaMonkey?
>
> Hartmut

I don't have esound enabled on my Seamonkey and it plays a sound when I 
get new mail.  It did stop working for a while but it started working in 
the later part of version 1 and has worked in Seamonkey 2 from the start.

I did read some of the thread on -dev about this.  I think there was 
only a couple packages that uses esound and I don't recall Seamonkey 
being one of them.  Are you sure it needs esound?  It doesn't show up 
here as a option.  I'm on amd64 on my main rig and x86 on my back up.  
It doesn't show esound anywhere on either of them.

[ebuild   R    ] www-client/seamonkey-2.4.1-r1  USE="alsa chatzilla dbus 
ipc libnotify methodjit roaming startup-notification webm -crypt 
-custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -system-sqlite -wifi"

I do have alsa enabled tho.  Would that work for you too?

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* Re: [gentoo-user] removal of esound
  2012-01-09  2:51 [gentoo-user] removal of esound Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09  3:25 ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09  3:29 ` Michael Mol
  2012-01-09  4:25   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09  6:46 ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-10  5:10 ` Hartmut Figge
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Michael Mol @ 2012-01-09  3:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Hartmut Figge <h.figge@gmx.de> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> 'emerge -pv -uDN world' just showed me this:
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - media-sound/esound-0.2.41::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@gentoo.org> (04 Jan 2012)
> # Outdated and unused sound daemon. Why is this still in the tree?
> # Removal of esd and deps in 30 days.
> # In exceptional cases, you may use Pulseaudio's esound wrapper.
>
> Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
> notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
> so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
> SeaMonkey?

I'm not even sure how you're seeing this. 'esd' and 'esound' don't
show up anywhere in /usr/portage/www-client/seamonkey, for me.

FWIW, I've got the 'alsa' USE flag enabled.

-- 
:wq



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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09  3:25 ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09  4:20   ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09  4:20 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
>> notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
>> so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
>> SeaMonkey?
>
>I don't have esound enabled on my Seamonkey and it plays a sound when I 
>get new mail.

Nice. And what sound demon is responsible for that? ;)

>I did read some of the thread on -dev about this.  I think there was 
>only a couple packages that uses esound and I don't recall Seamonkey 
>being one of them.  Are you sure it needs esound?

I know, that i didn't have the notification without esound. There may be
other solutions.

>It doesn't show up here as a option. I'm on amd64 on my main rig and
>x86 on my back up. It doesn't show esound anywhere on either of
>them.

I am using x86_64 without a desktop like KDE, Gnome or XFCE. Only icewm.
Probably most of you uses some kind desktop and it is likely that a
sound demon is installed in this way.

>[ebuild   R    ] www-client/seamonkey-2.4.1-r1  USE="alsa chatzilla dbus 
>ipc libnotify methodjit roaming startup-notification webm -crypt 
>-custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -system-sqlite -wifi"
>
>I do have alsa enabled tho.  Would that work for you too?

Ehm, look at my user agent. I am not using Gentoo to build SM, instead i
am pulling the source from hg.mozilla.org. Nearly every day i have a new
SM. :)

Hartmut
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09  3:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
@ 2012-01-09  4:25   ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09  4:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Michael Mol:
>On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Hartmut Figge <h.figge@gmx.de> wrote:

>> Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
>> notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
>> so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
>> SeaMonkey?
>
>I'm not even sure how you're seeing this. 'esd' and 'esound' don't
>show up anywhere in /usr/portage/www-client/seamonkey, for me.

I am not using Gentoo for my SM. I am using hg.mozilla.org and applying
some private patches to this source.

>FWIW, I've got the 'alsa' USE flag enabled.

Opening the custom sound file with the browser worked fine here. Only
the mail notification required esound. Or another sound demon. But which
one. :)

Hartmut
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09  2:51 [gentoo-user] removal of esound Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09  3:25 ` Dale
  2012-01-09  3:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
@ 2012-01-09  6:46 ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 10:26   ` Neil Bothwick
  2012-01-10  5:10 ` Hartmut Figge
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09  6:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge:

>Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
>notify of new mail with a custom sound file.

I have now verified this. Without esound i am getting

Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]"  nsresult:
"0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame ::
chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
99"  data: no]

in the error console. The next step could be trying if the notification
is working for you with my current build of SM. In case someone is
recklessly enough to do so. *g*

This build is for x86_64. Do NOT use it with your current profile! One
way to do so is by renaming ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla-s. SM will create a
new ~/.mozilla when it starts. No configuration is needed except by
inserting a path to a .wav. pref.png shows where to insert. Then click
on 'Play'.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/sm/120109/

Unpack the .tar.bz2 in e.g. ~/seam, cd to ~/seam/seamonkey and issue
./seamonkey to start SM. After the test delete ~/.mozilla and rename
~/.mozilla-s to ~/.mozilla.

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09  6:46 ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 10:26   ` Neil Bothwick
  2012-01-09 10:46     ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2012-01-09 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:46:45 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote:

> I have now verified this. Without esound i am getting
> 
> Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
> code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]"  nsresult:
> "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame ::
> chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
> 99"  data: no]

That looks like a configuration option. What happens when you use a
default profile?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. Its the transition thats
troublesome. - Isaac Asimov

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 10:26   ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2012-01-09 10:46     ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 11:19       ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Neil Bothwick:
>On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:46:45 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> I have now verified this. Without esound i am getting
>> 
>> Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
>> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
>> code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]"  nsresult:
>> "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame ::
>> chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
>> 99"  data: no]
>
>That looks like a configuration option.

No, it isn't.

>What happens when you use a default profile?

Same exception with a fresh profile. Also when starting this fresh
profile in safe-mode.

Hartmut
-- 
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 10:46     ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 11:19       ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 12:30         ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge:
> Neil Bothwick:

>>That looks like a configuration option.
> 
> No, it isn't.

I am now using the official SM 2.6.1 from mozilla.org. Same exception.
Also in a new profile. And i don't like the ugly new emoticons. *g*

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 11:19       ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 12:30         ` Dale
  2012-01-09 12:46           ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-09 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Hartmut Figge:
>> Neil Bothwick:
>>> That looks like a configuration option.
>> No, it isn't.
> I am now using the official SM 2.6.1 from mozilla.org. Same exception.
> Also in a new profile. And i don't like the ugly new emoticons. *g*
>
> Hartmut

I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into 
Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.  It appears 
that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it.  So, you may need 
to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.

This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:

"Hi folks,

Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree 
and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!

Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything 
that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should 
be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].

I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to 
complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome 
since the job is rather straightforward.

Thanks!

1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice 
since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with 
`module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.

-- ~Nirbheek Chauhan"

Have you tried pulseaudio?  Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of 
thing.  Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.

Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of 
sound daemon.  Question is which one.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 12:30         ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09 12:46           ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 13:23             ` Dale
  2012-01-09 22:49             ` walt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:

>I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into 
>Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.

:)

>It appears that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it. So,
>you may need to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.

I seem to recall from the wine groups, that KDE uses pulseaudio. And
this one is causing a lot of trouble in wine.

>This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:
>
>"Hi folks,
>
>Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree 
>and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!
>
>Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything 
>that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should 
>be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].
>
>I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to 
>complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome 
>since the job is rather straightforward.

*URKS*. Hm, how to translate this one into English? *g*

>Thanks!
>
>1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice 
>since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with 
>`module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.

>Have you tried pulseaudio?

No. And i do *not* want pulseaudio.

>Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of thing.

It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...

>Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.

...and if not, what else.

>Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of 
>sound daemon.  Question is which one.

Good question. :-D

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 12:46           ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 13:23             ` Dale
  2012-01-09 13:47               ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 13:57               ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 22:49             ` walt
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-09 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>> I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into
>> Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.
> :)
>
>> It appears that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it. So,
>> you may need to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.
> I seem to recall from the wine groups, that KDE uses pulseaudio. And
> this one is causing a lot of trouble in wine.

I don't have pulseaudio installed here so my KDE is not using it.  I did 
some digging into the ebuilds.  KDE can use either pulseaudio or alsa.  
It appears mine is using alsa.  Maybe you should enable the alsa USE 
flag?  That should pull in alsa and rebuild the packages that can use 
it.  The command emerge -uaDN world should catch them all.

>
>> This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:
>>
>> "Hi folks,
>>
>> Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree
>> and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!
>>
>> Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything
>> that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should
>> be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].
>>
>> I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to
>> complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome
>> since the job is rather straightforward.
> *URKS*. Hm, how to translate this one into English? *g*
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> 1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice
>> since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with
>> `module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.
>> Have you tried pulseaudio?
> No. And i do *not* want pulseaudio.

Then alsa should work.  Sort of covered that above.

>
>> Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of thing.
> It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...
>
>> Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.
> ...and if not, what else.
>
>> Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of
>> sound daemon.  Question is which one.
> Good question. :-D
>
> Hartmut

I would try alsa.  It works fine here.  I can play music and still hear 
all the other sounds that come along, such as getting emails and such.  
I admit tho, I hate watching a movie then hearing other sounds.

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 13:23             ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09 13:47               ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 14:14                 ` Dale
  2012-01-09 13:57               ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:

>I would try alsa.  It works fine here.

Also here.

>I can play music and still hear all the other sounds that come along,

Also here.

>such as getting emails

That's the only one which doesn't work.

>and such.

'and such' also works here. *g*

alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsaplayer

May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
perhaps... :)

Hartmut
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 13:23             ` Dale
  2012-01-09 13:47               ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 13:57               ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:

>Maybe you should enable the alsa USE flag?

alsa has been in make.conf ever. As for SM, i am not using an ebuild,
but here is an excerpt from the building of SM:

----- build-log.txt -----
checking for alsa... yes
checking MOZ_ALSA_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/alsa
checking MOZ_ALSA_LIBS... -lasound
---------------
Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 13:47               ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-09 14:14                 ` Dale
  2012-01-09 14:18                   ` Dale
  2012-01-09 14:42                   ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-09 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> 'and such' also works here. *g*
>
> alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:
>
> hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
> media-libs/alsa-lib
> media-sound/alsa-headers
> media-sound/alsa-utils
> media-sound/alsaplayer
>
> May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
> the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
> perhaps... :)
>
> Hartmut

I have these installed:

root@fireball / # eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsamixergui
root@fireball / #

The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.  I just wonder if 
alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran alsamixer to check it?  It 
can run on a console.  You should have that installed already.  It is 
part of alsa-utils.  The master channel and the PCM channel is the 
important ones.  Be careful tho, it can play sounds that are pretty 
loud.  If it is muted, you can hit the M key to unmute it.  It toggles.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 14:14                 ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09 14:18                   ` Dale
  2012-01-09 14:42                   ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-09 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale wrote:
> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> 'and such' also works here. *g*
>>
>> alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:
>>
>> hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
>> media-libs/alsa-lib
>> media-sound/alsa-headers
>> media-sound/alsa-utils
>> media-sound/alsaplayer
>>
>> May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
>> the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
>> perhaps... :)
>>
>> Hartmut
>
> I have these installed:
>
> root@fireball / # eix -I --only-names alsa
> media-libs/alsa-lib
> media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa
> media-sound/alsa-headers
> media-sound/alsa-utils
> media-sound/alsamixergui
> root@fireball / #
>
> The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.  I just wonder 
> if alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran alsamixer to check 
> it?  It can run on a console.  You should have that installed 
> already.  It is part of alsa-utils.  The master channel and the PCM 
> channel is the important ones.  Be careful tho, it can play sounds 
> that are pretty loud.  If it is muted, you can hit the M key to unmute 
> it.  It toggles.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>


Also, I don't know if this is done on a per user setting or system 
wide.  Make sure you run it as your user and not root.  Otherwise it may 
not work right.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 14:14                 ` Dale
  2012-01-09 14:18                   ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09 14:42                   ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-09 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:

>The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.

None of them makes a difference. Sigh.

>I just wonder if alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran
>alsamixer to check it?

Yes. All fine. Remember, that the notification works with esound. And a
muted channel would not cause an uncaught exception in the error console
of SM when pressing 'Play' in the Preferences of SM. ;)

I do not like alsamixergui at all. alsamixer is better. For me.

Now i have to make a break. Time to sleep. Till later then. :)

Hartmut
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09 12:46           ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-09 13:23             ` Dale
@ 2012-01-09 22:49             ` walt
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: walt @ 2012-01-09 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 01/09/2012 04:46 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...

Unfortunately yes.  They seem determined to shove pulse down our
throats just like everyone else, and for no good reason that I
can see.  Yes, maybe some people need a sound daemon but I never
have and never will.  The pulse devs should go work for world
peace or something I can use :p




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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-09  2:51 [gentoo-user] removal of esound Hartmut Figge
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-01-09  6:46 ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-10  5:10 ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-10  5:35   ` Dale
  2012-01-12  1:56   ` Hartmut Figge
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-10  5:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge:


>Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
>notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
>so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
>SeaMonkey?

Summary of the thread:

Without esound there is an uncaught exception when trying to play a
custom sound in Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Notification even with
the official builds of SM from mozilla.org.

Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]"  nsresult:
"0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame ::
chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
99"  data: no]

The solution may be using pulseaudio. On the other hand, removing
pulseaudio is usually one of the first recommendations in the wine
groups when problems occur. ;)

Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
it upstream to mozilla.org.

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-10  5:10 ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-10  5:35   ` Dale
  2012-01-10  5:49     ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-12  1:56   ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-10  5:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Hartmut Figge:
>
>
>> Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
>> notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
>> so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
>> SeaMonkey?
> Summary of the thread:
>
> Without esound there is an uncaught exception when trying to play a
> custom sound in Preferences->Mail&  Newsgroups->Notification even with
> the official builds of SM from mozilla.org.
>
> Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
> code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]"  nsresult:
> "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame ::
> chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
> 99"  data: no]
>
> The solution may be using pulseaudio. On the other hand, removing
> pulseaudio is usually one of the first recommendations in the wine
> groups when problems occur. ;)
>
> Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
> it upstream to mozilla.org.
>
> Hartmut

When you take it upstream, tell them it doesn't work in Fluxbox plus the 
GUI you are using.  It may help them narrow down the problem.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-10  5:35   ` Dale
@ 2012-01-10  5:49     ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-10  5:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
>> it upstream to mozilla.org.
>
>When you take it upstream, tell them it doesn't work in Fluxbox plus the 
>GUI you are using.  It may help them narrow down the problem.

*If*, not *when*. ;)

Hartmut, lazy
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-10  5:10 ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-10  5:35   ` Dale
@ 2012-01-12  1:56   ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-12  8:26     ` Hartmut Figge
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-12  1:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge:

>I may take it upstream to mozilla.org.

No need for that. I just heard the notification sound with the new build
of SM. :)

Hartmut
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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-12  1:56   ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-12  8:26     ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-12  8:48       ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-12  8:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge:
>Hartmut Figge:

>>I may take it upstream to mozilla.org.
>
>No need for that. I just heard the notification sound with the new build
>of SM. :)

Perhaps i should have mentioned, in case someone is wondering what has
happened, it was most likely this:

----- build-log.txt -----
[...]
pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/
[...]
getting widget/gtk2/nsSound.cpp
[...]
---------------


Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-12  8:26     ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-12  8:48       ` Dale
  2012-01-12  9:09         ` Hartmut Figge
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-12  8:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Hartmut Figge:
>> Hartmut Figge:
>>> I may take it upstream to mozilla.org.
>> No need for that. I just heard the notification sound with the new build
>> of SM. :)
> Perhaps i should have mentioned, in case someone is wondering what has
> happened, it was most likely this:
>
> ----- build-log.txt -----
> [...]
> pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/
> [...]
> getting widget/gtk2/nsSound.cpp
> [...]
> ---------------
>
>
> Hartmut

I wonder if it will fix this in my Fluxbox?  I'll have to test this 
after the next upgrade.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-12  8:48       ` Dale
@ 2012-01-12  9:09         ` Hartmut Figge
  2012-01-12 16:54           ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Hartmut Figge @ 2012-01-12  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> Perhaps i should have mentioned, in case someone is wondering what has
>> happened, it was most likely this:
>>
>> ----- build-log.txt -----
>> [...]
>> pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/
>> [...]
>> getting widget/gtk2/nsSound.cpp
>> [...]
>> ---------------
>
>I wonder if it will fix this in my Fluxbox?

I am assuming that it will.

>I'll have to test this after the next upgrade.

Well, the fix has just checked in. It will take time until it is
included in the releases. If you will test now, well, i could upload my
build, you could unpack it in Home and run it there. I had previously in
this thread explained how to do it.

Shall i upload?

Hartmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound
  2012-01-12  9:09         ` Hartmut Figge
@ 2012-01-12 16:54           ` Dale
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-01-12 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>> Perhaps i should have mentioned, in case someone is wondering what has
>>> happened, it was most likely this:
>>>
>>> ----- build-log.txt -----
>>> [...]
>>> pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/
>>> [...]
>>> getting widget/gtk2/nsSound.cpp
>>> [...]
>>> ---------------
>> I wonder if it will fix this in my Fluxbox?
> I am assuming that it will.
>
>> I'll have to test this after the next upgrade.
> Well, the fix has just checked in. It will take time until it is
> included in the releases. If you will test now, well, i could upload my
> build, you could unpack it in Home and run it there. I had previously in
> this thread explained how to do it.
>
> Shall i upload?
>
> Hartmut

It will hit the tree pretty soon.  If I see it hit the tree, I can 
always add that one to my keywords and such.  There is already a 2.6 
version in the tree.  I'm still on 2.4, since it works well.  I only use 
Fluxbox if my KDE is not working for some reason.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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