[gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Daevid Vincent]

This seems like a newb question. I've been using my Gentoo for a few years
now, and since X/KDE/Gnome/etc. never seemed to be quite stable, I always
booted into command lines and then manually 'startx' JICSH.

But I find myself almost always doing that these days, so I suppose it's
time to make the plunge so that X starts when I boot up. I'm still a bit
worried about hibernation (which I don't have working anyways - yet), I
recall there were issues with nvidia and suspending to HD/RAM if you were in
X. That could be old news?

Anyways, I can't get this to work. When I boot up, the screen is BLACK. Not
just back-lit black, but like there's no power black. If I CTRL+ALT+1, I get
to a shell prompt.

Here are some interesting areas:

*  kde-base/kde
      Latest version available: 3.5.5
      Latest version installed: 3.5.5

locutus ~ # ll /etc/X11/Sessions/   
total 28
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Nov 14 16:01 .
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 Oct 23 18:02 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2464 Nov  8 17:31 Gnome
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2187 Oct 23 16:56 Xsession
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   33 Apr 26  2006 icewm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   41 Nov  8 16:19 kde-3.5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   29 Aug 20  2004 xfce

locutus ~ # cat /etc/inittab 
...
# Default runlevel.
id:5:initdefault:
# That was '3' before and I thought I remembered it was supposed to be '5'
?!

locutus daevid # cat /home/daevid/.xinitrc 
exec startkde

locutus daevid # cat /etc/rc.conf 
XSESSION="kde-3.5"
DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

locutus daevid # rc-update show
		...
                 xdm |              default           
		...


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Craig Michael Wayman]

Hi,

This is what I use to start kde on boot.

I let the xdm startup script launch kdm for me.

localhost ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/xdm
# Tell X to always start on VT7. Otherwise it autodetects the first available
# VT, which means it has to wait until all gettys are started so it doesn't 
suck
# up a VT that should have had a login prompt (very slow).
# If XSTATICVT is on, the login manager will start as soon as possible during
# the boot process. If you want X to dynamically start on the first unoccupied
# VT after all gettys have started and you are using xdm, also remove 
the "vt7"
# from /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.
XSTATICVT="yes"

# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ]
# NOTE: If this is set in /etc/rc.conf, that setting will override this one.
DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

The XSESSION variable in /etc/rc.conf is commented.

I then have xdm start in the default runlevel.

localhost ~ # rc-update show default
		...
                 xdm | default

to add use 'rc-update add xdm default' as root

localhost ~ # rc-update add xdm default

I also have this session script in /etc/X11/Sessions:

localhost ~ # cat /etc/X11/Sessions/kde-3.5
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/kde/3.5/bin/startkde

Hope this helps,
Craig

PS. My First Post To This List! Hello Everyone!

On Wednesday 15 November 2006 00:32, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> This seems like a newb question. I've been using my Gentoo for a few years
> now, and since X/KDE/Gnome/etc. never seemed to be quite stable, I always
> booted into command lines and then manually 'startx' JICSH.
>
> But I find myself almost always doing that these days, so I suppose it's
> time to make the plunge so that X starts when I boot up. I'm still a bit
> worried about hibernation (which I don't have working anyways - yet), I
> recall there were issues with nvidia and suspending to HD/RAM if you were
> in X. That could be old news?
>
> Anyways, I can't get this to work. When I boot up, the screen is BLACK. Not
> just back-lit black, but like there's no power black. If I CTRL+ALT+1, I
> get to a shell prompt.
>
> Here are some interesting areas:
>
> *  kde-base/kde
>       Latest version available: 3.5.5
>       Latest version installed: 3.5.5
>
> locutus ~ # ll /etc/X11/Sessions/
> total 28
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Nov 14 16:01 .
> drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 Oct 23 18:02 ..
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2464 Nov  8 17:31 Gnome
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2187 Oct 23 16:56 Xsession
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   33 Apr 26  2006 icewm
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   41 Nov  8 16:19 kde-3.5
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   29 Aug 20  2004 xfce
>
> locutus ~ # cat /etc/inittab
> ...
> # Default runlevel.
> id:5:initdefault:
> # That was '3' before and I thought I remembered it was supposed to be '5'
> ?!
>
> locutus daevid # cat /home/daevid/.xinitrc
> exec startkde
>
> locutus daevid # cat /etc/rc.conf
> XSESSION="kde-3.5"
> DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
>
> locutus daevid # rc-update show
> 		...
>                  xdm |              default
> 		...
>
>
> ÐÆ5ÏÐ

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:32:10 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> # Default runlevel.
> id:5:initdefault:
> # That was '3' before and I thought I remembered it was supposed to be
> '5' ?!

It should be 3. The Red Hat derived distros use runlevel 5 for a
graphical boot, Gentoo uses level 3 and controls which services start with
its softlevels.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Philip Webb]

061114 Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I've been using my Gentoo for a few years
> and since X/KDE/Gnome/etc never seemed to be quite stable,
> I always booted into command lines and then manually 'startx' JICSH.

This is what I've been doing for  > 3 years  quite happily.
It seems more in the true spirit of Gentoo (smile).

> But I find myself almost always doing that these days,
> so I suppose it's time to make the plunge so that X starts when I boot up.

Well, Gentoo is also about choice, so do it your way,
but very occasionally there is a need to do things outside X
& your previous & my own continuing approach preserves that option.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Richard Fish]

On 11/14/06, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> This seems like a newb question. I've been using my Gentoo for a few years
> now, and since X/KDE/Gnome/etc. never seemed to be quite stable, I always
> booted into command lines and then manually 'startx' JICSH.
>
> But I find myself almost always doing that these days, so I suppose it's
> time to make the plunge so that X starts when I boot up. I'm still a bit
> worried about hibernation (which I don't have working anyways - yet), I
> recall there were issues with nvidia and suspending to HD/RAM if you were in
> X. That could be old news?

For me, suspend-to-ram works better from X than from a console, using
the proprietary drivers.  In fact if I suspend from a console, the
graphics card will fail to resume correctly.

Suspend-to-disk may or may not work better for you from X.  Neither of
my systems are working with STD currently...

> Anyways, I can't get this to work. When I boot up, the screen is BLACK. Not
> just back-lit black, but like there's no power black. If I CTRL+ALT+1, I get
> to a shell prompt.

Hmm, is this a laptop?  X/Nvidia can sometimes decide to drive only
the external video instead of the LCD, which appears as the symptoms
you describe.  I guess this could also happen on a desktop if the
graphics card has multiple outputs.

Anyway, on the console, run "ps auwx | grep X" and make sure that X is
running.  Also check /var/log/kdm.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for
error messages.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:24:25 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:

> Well, Gentoo is also about choice, so do it your way,
> but very occasionally there is a need to do things outside X
> & your previous & my own continuing approach preserves that option.

As it's only "very occasionally", why not set up a new runlevel that
doesn't start X for those rare occasions, rather than having to start X
manually the other 99% of the time.

Or you could just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 after X has started :)


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