[gentoo-user] Why can't I print in landscape?

[gentoo-user] Why can't I print in landscape?

[Mick]

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Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF, or 
Chromium, or Okular?

No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only print 
in portrait and chop off half the page.  :-(
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Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[walt]

On 03/05/2012 02:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF, or 
> Chromium, or Okular?
> 
> No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only print 
> in portrait and chop off half the page.  :-(

In FF I see buttons for portrait and landscape in the 'print setup' and 'print
preview' menus.  You don't have those buttons?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Mick]

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On Monday 05 Mar 2012 23:55:31 walt wrote:
> On 03/05/2012 02:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> > Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF,
> > or Chromium, or Okular?
> > 
> > No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only
> > print in portrait and chop off half the page.  :-(
> 
> In FF I see buttons for portrait and landscape in the 'print setup' and
> 'print preview' menus.  You don't have those buttons?

Yes I do.  I select landscape and get portrait coming out.  :-(

Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or whatever 
its called) and also change in there the settings to print landscape.

Still no success.

Only in libreoffice I can print in landscape a test page, after I change the 
libreoffice print manager settings, but what I want is to print one of the 
google maps in landscape from a browser and can't do it!  Even when I print in 
pdf from the browser (the pdf is landscape) I can't thereafter print it as 
such.  It keeps coming out as portrait.

I stopped printing for now because I'm running out of paper!  :-/
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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[walt]

On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:

> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or whatever 
> its called) and also change in there the settings to print landscape.

I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird printing
bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and re-created the
devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:
>
>> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or whatever
>> its called) and also change in there the settings to print landscape.
>
> I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
> devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird printing
> bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and re-created the
> devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.

With my printer, I must re-run the HP firmware plug-in downloader as
root every time I update hplip. If I forget to do that, the printer
either does not work at all or appears to be working but may do crazy
things.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:
>>
>>> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or whatever
>>> its called) and also change in there the settings to print landscape.
>>
>> I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
>> devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird printing
>> bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and re-created the
>> devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.
> 
> With my printer, I must re-run the HP firmware plug-in downloader as
> root every time I update hplip. If I forget to do that, the printer
> either does not work at all or appears to be working but may do crazy
> things.
> 
> 


I have had to do the same thing.  I have also noticed if I don't run the
config tool that it will max out one CPU core until I kill hplip or log
out and sometimes have to kill hplip then.

Recently, I have noticed I don't have to do that and everything works as
expected.  Sort of surprised really.  I have got so used to redoing
everything after a update.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 02:11:37 Dale wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or
> >>> whatever its called) and also change in there the settings to print
> >>> landscape.
> >> 
> >> I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
> >> devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird
> >> printing bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and
> >> re-created the devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.
> > 
> > With my printer, I must re-run the HP firmware plug-in downloader as
> > root every time I update hplip. If I forget to do that, the printer
> > either does not work at all or appears to be working but may do crazy
> > things.
> 
> I have had to do the same thing.  I have also noticed if I don't run the
> config tool that it will max out one CPU core until I kill hplip or log
> out and sometimes have to kill hplip then.
> 
> Recently, I have noticed I don't have to do that and everything works as
> expected.  Sort of surprised really.  I have got so used to redoing
> everything after a update.

Thanks guys, but I think that I only use the hpjis driver rather than the full 
hplip package.  This is because the printer is connected to this printer 
server:

http://support.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2516/

which works with lpd://<ip_address>

I remember running the hp-config or some such script some years back.  It did 
not find the printer, or server, or ever configured anything.  It only tried to 
connect to USB devices.  Now looking at my machine I can't see it anywhere, 
but there's loads of other commands there!

hp-align           hp-info            hp-pqdiag          hp-systray
hp-check           hp-levels          hp-print           hp-testpage
hp-clean           hp-linefeedcal     hp-printsettings   hp-timedate
hp-colorcal        hp-makecopies      hp-probe           hp-toolbox
hp-devicesettings  hp-makeuri         hp-query           hp-unload
hp-fab             hp-mkuri           hp-scan            hp-wificonfig
hp-faxsetup        hp-pkservice       hp-sendfax         hpftodit
hp-firmware        hp-plugin          hp-setup           hpijs

I will try to run some of these when I get to that machine next, because I 
will be interested to see if it changes anything.  Any suggestions what I 
should run?
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 06:49:10 Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 02:11:37 Dale wrote:
> > Paul Hartman wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:
> > >>> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or
> > >>> whatever its called) and also change in there the settings to print
> > >>> landscape.
> > >> 
> > >> I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
> > >> devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird
> > >> printing bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and
> > >> re-created the devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.
> > > 
> > > With my printer, I must re-run the HP firmware plug-in downloader as
> > > root every time I update hplip. If I forget to do that, the printer
> > > either does not work at all or appears to be working but may do crazy
> > > things.
> > 
> > I have had to do the same thing.  I have also noticed if I don't run the
> > config tool that it will max out one CPU core until I kill hplip or log
> > out and sometimes have to kill hplip then.
> > 
> > Recently, I have noticed I don't have to do that and everything works as
> > expected.  Sort of surprised really.  I have got so used to redoing
> > everything after a update.
> 
> Thanks guys, but I think that I only use the hpjis driver rather than the
> full hplip package.  This is because the printer is connected to this
> printer server:
> 
> http://support.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2516/
> 
> which works with lpd://<ip_address>
> 
> I remember running the hp-config or some such script some years back.  It
> did not find the printer, or server, or ever configured anything.  It only
> tried to connect to USB devices.  Now looking at my machine I can't see it
> anywhere, but there's loads of other commands there!
> 
> hp-align           hp-info            hp-pqdiag          hp-systray
> hp-check           hp-levels          hp-print           hp-testpage
> hp-clean           hp-linefeedcal     hp-printsettings   hp-timedate
> hp-colorcal        hp-makecopies      hp-probe           hp-toolbox
> hp-devicesettings  hp-makeuri         hp-query           hp-unload
> hp-fab             hp-mkuri           hp-scan            hp-wificonfig
> hp-faxsetup        hp-pkservice       hp-sendfax         hpftodit
> hp-firmware        hp-plugin          hp-setup           hpijs
> 
> I will try to run some of these when I get to that machine next, because I
> will be interested to see if it changes anything.  Any suggestions what I
> should run?

Oops!  Yes, it was hp-setup as you say.  Will try that again and see what it 
gives.

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 06:51:41 Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 06:49:10 Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 02:11:37 Dale wrote:
> > > Paul Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On 03/05/2012 04:52 PM, Mick wrote:
> > > >>> Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or
> > > >>> whatever its called) and also change in there the settings to print
> > > >>> landscape.
> > > >> 
> > > >> I discovered (the very hard way) to delete and re-create the printer
> > > >> devices whenever I update hplip.  I kept seeing some really weird
> > > >> printing bugs that no one else was seeing, until I deleted and
> > > >> re-created the devices with hp-setup.  Worth a try, anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > With my printer, I must re-run the HP firmware plug-in downloader as
> > > > root every time I update hplip. If I forget to do that, the printer
> > > > either does not work at all or appears to be working but may do crazy
> > > > things.
> > > 
> > > I have had to do the same thing.  I have also noticed if I don't run
> > > the config tool that it will max out one CPU core until I kill hplip
> > > or log out and sometimes have to kill hplip then.
> > > 
> > > Recently, I have noticed I don't have to do that and everything works
> > > as expected.  Sort of surprised really.  I have got so used to redoing
> > > everything after a update.
> > 
> > Thanks guys, but I think that I only use the hpjis driver rather than the
> > full hplip package.  This is because the printer is connected to this
> > printer server:
> > 
> > http://support.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2516/
> > 
> > which works with lpd://<ip_address>
> > 
> > I remember running the hp-config or some such script some years back.  It
> > did not find the printer, or server, or ever configured anything.  It
> > only tried to connect to USB devices.  

OK, I just ran it and it won't find the printer.  I think hplip will not run on 
lpd:// protocol, which is strange because hpijs works fine - well, was working 
fine.

hp-setup fails for my network server and defaults to USB:
===========================================
# hp-setup -i 10.10.10.4

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.11.10)
Printer/Fax Setup Utility ver. 9.0

Copyright (c) 2001-9 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

(Note: Defaults for each question are maked with a '*'. Press <enter> to 
accept the default.)
                                                                                
Using connection type: usb
                                                                               error: 
Invalid device URI: 
error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality.
===========================================


hp-probe won't find it either:
===========================================
$ hp-probe -bnet

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.11.10)
Printer Discovery Utility ver. 4.1

Copyright (c) 2001-9 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.


--------------------
| DEVICE DISCOVERY |
--------------------

Probing network for printers. Please wait, this will take approx. 10 
seconds...
                                                                              warning: 
No devices found on the 'net' bus. If this isn't the result you are expecting,
warning: check your network connections and make sure your internet
warning: firewall software is disabled.

Done.
===========================================


However, the PS121 print server is there waiting for connections and the HP 
930c is connected to it and switched on:

$ nc -v -w 2 -z 10.10.10.4 1-10000
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 9100 (jetdirect) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 3010 (?) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 631 (ipp) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 515 (printer) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 139 (netbios-ssn) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 80 (http) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 23 (telnet) open
PS121.STUDY [10.10.10.4] 21 (ftp) open

These are my flags:

[I] net-print/hplip
     Installed versions:  3.11.10(20:12:51 01/29/12)(X acl hpcups hpijs kde 
libnotify policykit qt4 -doc -fax -minimal -parport -scanner -snmp -static-
ppds)

[I] net-print/cups
     Installed versions:  1.4.8-r1!t(18:07:11 01/29/12)(X acl dbus filters jpeg 
ldap pam png ssl threads tiff -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -gnutls -java -kerberos -
linguas_da -linguas_de -linguas_es -linguas_eu -linguas_fi -linguas_fr -
linguas_id -linguas_it -linguas_ja -linguas_ko -linguas_nl -linguas_no -
linguas_pl -linguas_pt -linguas_pt_BR -linguas_ru -linguas_sv -linguas_zh -
linguas_zh_TW -perl -php -python -slp -static-libs -xinetd)

Am I missing something obvious?
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Regards,
Mick

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