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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, Arthur Zamarin <arthurzam@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: x86 FP issues (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:20:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <baa1ca92da4941b0999ea2feecf02334b5b20ade.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tthgo8pt.fsf@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, 2024-06-26 at 01:20 +0100, Sam James wrote:
> Arthur Zamarin <arthurzam@gentoo.org> writes:
> 
> > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to
> > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me.
> > [...]
> > ======== 32-bit arches ========
> > 
> > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and
> > maybe more. Those are in much worse situation, with a mess on various
> > fronts, some of them super hard to continue support. For example
> > qtwebengine is less and less likely to manage to compile on a
> > real-hardware, and not 32-bit chroot on 64-bit host. Arch Team want to
> > minimize our work on those arches, meaning mass-destable and even
> > mass-dekeyword, with potentially full drop of stable status.
> > 
> > ======== x86 ========
> > 
> > Stable 32-bit arch. I'll be honest, I don't believe at all this should
> > be stable arch anymore. I propose making it dev arch, and mass-dekeyword
> > stuff we got because of inertia. This arch is close to HW die. (let's
> > not talk about i486 vs i686).
> 
> I think the mfpmath=sse thing [0] makes this a bit better but I still
> sympathise with your point.

I'd just like to point out that `-mfpmath=sse` is a two-edged sword.  It
generally makes results more consistent with other architectures which
is good and resolves some test failures when people *aren't testing with
x86*.  However, it breaks stuff when people are specifically testing
with x86 and accounting for i387 math (sigh).

> 
> [0] https://public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/ce894afe6c2b324fef012da9bb9387cfde7aed03.camel@gentoo.org/

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-28  5:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-25 17:33 [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans Arthur Zamarin
2024-06-25 21:40 ` matoro
2024-06-25 22:55 ` James Le Cuirot
2024-06-26  0:06 ` Notion of stable depgraph vs stable keywords (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans) Sam James
2024-06-28  4:17   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Notion of stable depgraph vs stable keywords (Re: " Duncan
2024-06-28  5:16     ` Sam James
2024-06-26  0:14 ` Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] " Sam James
2024-06-26 20:29   ` ia64, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:45     ` matoro
2024-06-26  0:17 ` On the value (or not?) of stable keywords " Sam James
2024-06-26  0:19 ` time64 & LFS for 32-bit arches " Sam James
2024-06-26  0:20 ` x86 FP issues " Sam James
2024-06-28  5:20   ` Michał Górny [this message]
2024-06-26  7:38 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Arch Status and Future Plans Florian Schmaus
2024-06-26  8:29   ` Christian Bricart
2024-06-26 20:44   ` Immolo
2024-06-26 19:47 ` nomenclature, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:18 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 20:24 ` riscv, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-26 21:08 ` 32bit vs 64bit, " Andreas K. Huettel
2024-06-28 16:12 ` splitting keywords, " Andreas K. Huettel

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