From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg6n0-0007K7-1M for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:18:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 984F7E0432; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com [192.18.6.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEAEE0432 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m2UNIBtl008336 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:18:11 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JYK00I01GHZJT00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from vomacko@seznam.cz) for gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:18:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.1] ([88.146.62.65]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JYK00CQVGQ96B40@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:18:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:18:08 +0200 From: Vit Vomacko Subject: Re: [gnap-dev] student application/ideas for SoC 2008 In-reply-to: <1206909787.3091.15.camel@troy.riegger.name> Sender: Vit.Vomacko@Sun.COM To: gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <47F01FB0.3030805@seznam.cz> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo GNAP development X-BeenThere: gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 References: <47EFC1CD.60706@seznam.cz> <1206909787.3091.15.camel@troy.riegger.name> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 22a88fd1-cff2-4a50-8a3e-e7a6d66b6874 X-Archives-Hash: 5d352b8be3821115742cafc81dccbb7f Hi, nice to have some feedback :) > On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 18:37 +0200, Vit Vomacko wrote: > =20 >> My name is V=C3=AD=C5=A5a Vom=C3=A1=C4=8Dko (maybe some letters are= strange to you:), 21=20 >> years old, from Czech Republic >> =20 > > Nice. I'm from germany, but i have some friends in Czech Republic. I've > been on a trip to Prag, Brno and Vsetin last month. > > =20 I live in center of Prague, have windows/no linux/ to Jewish cemetery:)=20 So let me invite you for a beer, or two, or more:)) >> I have some ideas, based on Jos=C3=A9 Alberto's, Philipp Riegger's and= mine,=20 >> as a newcomer (may not be suitable for project, may be too long term )= .=20 >> So please tell me what seems to be good and what is totally rubbish:D >> >> * bug fixing (less bug, will report; cdrtools collision, a lot of >> bugs opened) >> =20 > > This is great. I've been looking for a new bug fixing release for a lon= g > long time. > > =20 >> * wrap,router board enhancements ( i will have direct access to it= ) >> =20 > > This sounds great. I'm looking forward to hearing from you, i've always > wanted one of these toys! > > =20 >> * glsa checks for your overlay (to be sure, that there is now >> critical security bug in your gnap devices) >> * overall upgrade of gnap core (new snapshot, gnap core..., move t= o >> gnap 2.1 release and continue) >> * interactive setup ( to be even easier to use for beginners, >> answers some questions and build what is needed) >> =20 > > I was always thinking about stabilizing the non-interactive part more, > but i'm looking forward to hearing your ideas. > > =20 >> * CLI (inspired by vyatta project, would be nice to share code, >> provides great management ability) and web interface for basic >> changes (networking, firmware upgrades) (definitely try to use=20 >> and edit code from other similar projects, use existing framewor= ks) >> =20 > > Do you know Mikroconf, which has been written for last years SoC? It's > not included anywhere, i think, but it sounds promising. Flexible > modular design,... > =20 Yes I took a look at it and it looks interesting, I would try to make it=20 "more standarized", it would be nice to use it with ziptie.org (become=20 part of ZONA) or Rancid. But it's difficult to estime needed time. > =20 >> * unionfs, support (I know that second guy would like to work on i= t) >> =20 > > With this you mean: / on squashfs, writable with unionfs and some local > storage? > > =20 Yes something like that, it would greatly move our project! >> * live formware upgrade >> =20 > > Ca you elaborate on this? Are you talking about the whole image, only > applications on it, upgreade with or without downtime? > > =20 Downtime would be probably needed for core system upgrades, but=20 applications could be upgraded without it. >> * use new catalyst (don't know exactly problems connected to it) >> =20 > > Mostly, that portage has to be newer than the one in the current > seedstage shipped with gnap 2.0. > > =20 >> * extensions installation made easier (maybe to have basic >> extensions available on the internet and automatically get them) >> =20 > > Prebuilt, or config files? Well, for routerboards and maybe x86 prebuil= t > could make sense. > =20 I thought about prebuilt, in cooperation with live upgrade, would be a=20 cool feature. > =20 >> * look at cross compiling ( I have some experience, so know that i= ts >> difficult, so sth.that could be done in shorter terms) >> =20 > > That's what i did not have when i tried it last year. I would really > like to read your suggestions on this. > > =20 This will need a lot of digging into it... >> * work on selected issues from Phillips's ideas ( >> http://archives.gentoo.org/gnap-dev/msg_01d6ef92bb66927018b41314= 62808391.xml >> ) >> >> Definitely I'd like to continue after SoC finishes. SO since tomorrow = is=20 >> deadline:( try to comment it asap, I will be very happy of your commen= ts. >> =20 > > I was out for the weekend, so i could not comment sooner. And BaSS > (Jose) seems to be not that responsive at the moment. Anyway, i hope yo= u > apply and i hope they take you and i hope, i can help you in any way. > >From what you wrote about your experience, this is unlikely. :-) > > Philipp > > =20 Wow fantastic to here about this kind of help, hope to work on it and=20 collaborate! --=20 gnap-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list