[gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Jarry]

Hi,

I want to install spamass-milter but I have to unmask it
because all versions are ~amd64 masked (I do not like it,
I wanted to stick with +amd64).

Is there any way of being automaticly informed when (if)
a certain packages get +amd64 from ~amd64? I would like
to go back to fully stable versions asap...

Similarly dovecot: again no stable version for amd64.
Is amd64 something like "unwanted child"? I found quite
many packages which are stable for x86, but only ~amd64...

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:17:20 +0200, Jarry wrote:

> Is there any way of being automaticly informed when (if)
> a certain packages get +amd64 from ~amd64? I would like
> to go back to fully stable versions asap...

No, but if you put a specific version in /etc/portage/package.keywords,
only that version will be installed from testing. It will only be
upgraded when a newer version goes stable.


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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Monday 3 July 2006 21:07, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:17:20 +0200, Jarry wrote:
> > Is there any way of being automaticly informed when (if)
> > a certain packages get +amd64 from ~amd64? I would like
> > to go back to fully stable versions asap...
>
> No, but if you put a specific version in
> /etc/portage/package.keywords, only that version will be installed
> from testing. It will only be upgraded when a newer version goes
> stable.

You can also subscribe to the amd64 rss channels on

http://packages.gentoo.org/feeds/

to be notified about all changes.
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[John J. Foster]

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On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:07:24PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> No, but if you put a specific version in /etc/portage/package.keywords,
> only that version will be installed from testing. It will only be
> upgraded when a newer version goes stable.

Neil - I _think_ this is what I have not been able to understand for
over a year now. I run an almost entirely stable system, and want to
keep it that way. But occassionally there is something I want that is
currently ~x86, for instance amarok. So what you're saying is that if I

#echo =media-sound/amarok-1.4.0a-r1 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords

I will not get the next testing version of amarok, but will get the next
stable? If this is true, it's only further proof of how dense I can be
at times.

Thanks,
festus
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:06:07 -0400 "John J. Foster" <Gentoo-User@festus.150ml.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:07:24PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> 
>> No, but if you put a specific version in /etc/portage/package.keywords,
>> only that version will be installed from testing. It will only be
>> upgraded when a newer version goes stable.
>
> Neil - I _think_ this is what I have not been able to understand for
> over a year now. I run an almost entirely stable system, and want to
> keep it that way. But occassionally there is something I want that is
> currently ~x86, for instance amarok. So what you're saying is that if I
>
> #echo =media-sound/amarok-1.4.0a-r1 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> I will not get the next testing version of amarok, but will get the next
> stable?

Yes.  The line you are adding to package.keywords says that for *the
specific version listed* (since you begin with "=") you will emerge
it, if it is keyworded (or stable).  For any other version, in
particular for the next version issued from upstream, the line you
added says nothing.  Hence, since you are running a stable system,
only stable versions (except for 1.4.0a-r1) are eligible for emerging.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[John J. Foster]

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On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:09:53PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> At Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:06:07 -0400 "John J. Foster" <Gentoo-User@festus.150ml.com> wrote:
> >
> > Neil - I _think_ this is what I have not been able to understand for
> > over a year now. I run an almost entirely stable system, and want to
> > keep it that way. But occassionally there is something I want that is
> > currently ~x86, for instance amarok. So what you're saying is that if I
> >
> > #echo =media-sound/amarok-1.4.0a-r1 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> >
> > I will not get the next testing version of amarok, but will get the next
> > stable?
> 
> Yes.  The line you are adding to package.keywords says that for *the
> specific version listed* (since you begin with "=") you will emerge
> it, if it is keyworded (or stable).  For any other version, in
> particular for the next version issued from upstream, the line you
> added says nothing.  Hence, since you are running a stable system,
> only stable versions (except for 1.4.0a-r1) are eligible for emerging.
> 
Excellent. Thanks Neil and Allan. You know, I just went back and re-read
the man page for portage, and it made perfect sense. I'd read that
fucking page probably 10 times before and didn't get it. 

Thanks again,
festus
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:34:17 -0400 "John J. Foster" <Gentoo-User@festus.150ml.com> wrote:

> Excellent. Thanks Neil and Allan.

Glad to be of help

> You know, I just went back and re-read the man page for portage, and
> it made perfect sense. I'd read that fucking page probably 10 times
> before and didn't get it.

I know the feeling ...
... all too well.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Ryan Tandy]

John J. Foster wrote:
> Excellent. Thanks Neil and Allan. You know, I just went back and re-read
> the man page for portage, and it made perfect sense. I'd read that
> page probably 10 times before and didn't get it. 

Not to rain on your parade, but please don't let your joy get in the way 
of your mail being safe for work/school/etc ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Roy Wright]

I just read this in the developer's guide:

  http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/index.html

  |~app-misc/foo-1.23| Version 1.23 (or any |1.23-r*|) is required.

I was wondering if this would work in package.keywords, package.mask, etc.
so tried it.  It does appear to work...

# eix -e portage
* sys-apps/portage
     Available versions:  2.0.51.22-r3 2.0.54-r2 2.1 2.1-r1 
2.1.1_pre1-r5 2.1.1_pre2-r2

# echo "~sys-apps/portage-2.1" >> /etc/portage/package.mask

# eix -e portage
* sys-apps/portage
     Available versions:  2.0.51.22-r3 2.0.54-r2 [M]2.1 [M]2.1-r1 
2.1.1_pre1-r5 2.1.1_pre2-r2

Have fun,
Roy


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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:50:12 -0500 Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> wrote:

> I just read this in the developer's guide:
>
>   http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/index.html
>
>   |~app-misc/foo-1.23| Version 1.23 (or any |1.23-r*|) is required.
>
> I was wondering if this would work in package.keywords, package.mask, etc.
> so tried it.  It does appear to work...
>
> # eix -e portage
> * sys-apps/portage
>      Available versions:  2.0.51.22-r3 2.0.54-r2 2.1 2.1-r1
>      2.1.1_pre1-r5 2.1.1_pre2-r2
>
> # echo "~sys-apps/portage-2.1" >> /etc/portage/package.mask
>
> # eix -e portage
> * sys-apps/portage
>      Available versions:  2.0.51.22-r3 2.0.54-r2 [M]2.1 [M]2.1-r1
>      2.1.1_pre1-r5 2.1.1_pre2-r2

Good find.  I saw some posts here using it and wondered why the same
"typo" appeared.  I just checked the portage man page, which describes
the various package.* files, and this usage of `~' is not documented.
Should I file a documentation bug?

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 04 July 2006 14:21, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> Good find.  I saw some posts here using it and wondered why the same
> "typo" appeared.  I just checked the portage man page, which describes
> the various package.* files, and this usage of `~' is not documented.
> Should I file a documentation bug?

It's in `man 5 ebuild`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] package version notification (~/+)?

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Tue, 04 Jul 2006 16:09:35 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:

> On Tuesday 04 July 2006 14:21, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> Good find.  I saw some posts here using it and wondered why the same
>> "typo" appeared.  I just checked the portage man page, which describes
>> the various package.* files, and this usage of `~' is not documented.
>> Should I file a documentation bug?
>
> It's in `man 5 ebuild`.

I see.  I guess this is a change in the new portage.  I *believe* that
previously the operators were explained in man portage, but I see now
that not even the old operators = >= <= are there but instead we are
referred to ebuild.

For my previous msg I just searched for ~ and didn't think of the
possibility that all the operators moved.

My error, sorry.
allan

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