From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N1S7x-0003cL-0N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:56:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1783BE08B1; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.80.33]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0365CE08B1 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ajglap.localdomain (ool-4578da1c.dyn.optonline.net [69.120.218.28]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9NLuoXw004144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ajglap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1502) id 69DB019D922; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:56:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Gottlieb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown References: <200910232304.04967.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:56:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200910232304.04967.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (Alan McKinnon's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:04:04 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archives-Salt: 62d43f3d-3684-4bce-9d83-fbdc085a6bf0 X-Archives-Hash: 8029336b61c5fe1d3692bbf561fbbc6d At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:04:04 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 23 October 2009 20:38:27 Manuel Fiorelli wrote: >> 2009/10/23 Allan Gottlieb : >> > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:21 +0200 Manuel Fiorelli > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press >> > >> > I recently had a problem where the evolution data server didn't die >> >> Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem. How did you understand >> that it is evolution >> to prevent Gnome from shutting down? > > > Maybe becuase evolution has historically been an unstable piece of complete > shit that crashes often and corrupts thing, so he investigated it first and > got lucky? Or maybe it was because he finds it so useful that he didn't consider not using it and investigated (via lsof | grep bin) what was still around that should be. In my case I think (but am not sure) the situation was that I couldn't unmount /usr so couldn't halt cleanly. I went to single user mode and lsof | grep bin pointed me at esd and evolution-data-server. allan