From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E0A13800E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4CB8E04C8; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.49.97]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F033CE07AD for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ajglap.localdomain (ool-182de1a5.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.225.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6RLGlLJ004048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ajglap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1502) id 4B8EF7006E; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Gottlieb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] intel HD graphics 4000 and viewing DVDs References: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:14:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Mol's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:22:09 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: 61ca5bae-c091-495a-b202-f0635afcc2b8 X-Archives-Hash: 9af54d73b047f1ccfc0439483cc94848 On Fri, Jul 27 2012, Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 26 2012, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> Check the nvidia site. It will tell you the exact driver Rev that >>> supports this GPU. >> >> Thanks. I see that 295.53 supports the NVS 5200M. Am I right in >> believing that this means all drivers >= 295.53 support it. >> This would be good as there are a few such in portage. > > It's actually very rare for nVidia to remove support for a card that it has. Thanks. I agree and now that I think about it, I can always get the older nvidia-driver from somewhere. > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> I am getting a new laptop. (likely dell 6430). >> The two graphics options are intel HD 4000 and nvidia NVS 5200M. >> Dell is as expected suggesting the 5200M. >> >> I do not need 3D or fast response. Dell hinted that DVDs might not play >> with the intel HD 4000. This seems weird to me as the 4000 is supposed >> to be a big improvement over the 3000 and I can't believe dell or others >> would have sold laptops that can't play dvds >> >> Any comments or experiences? > > My Duron 750MHz was able to decode DVDs in realtime. After that, all > you're doing is blitting (or using xv) the frames to the screen. I > would be absolutely shocked if the Intel HD 4000 GPU couldn't handle > that basic of a 2D acceleration function. > > Now, DVDs use MPEG2. Blu-Ray uses h.264, which is a much harder beast > to decode in realtime. It's possible the HD 4000 GPU can't handle > hardware decode of h.264, but I don't know. I've never looked into it. > (Software decode of 1080p h.264 on my Phenom 9650 worked somewhat, but > highly active scenes would cause frame drops.) Thanks. I am not getting a blu-ray player. I forgot a big point. I have a very high res 30" monitor (2560x1600) and need to insure that the graphics card can drive the monitor at full res (I don't care about dvd's just software development and writing my lectures). I haven't received a definitive answer from dell about that. I am really in a quandary over the graphics card. The nvidia card is a little new and not listed on the nouveau page (I have found nouveau works much better than nvidia-drivers). Also it requires a bigger battery and power adapter. Indeed with the intel 4000, I could get a physically smaller dell 6430s with the same 14" screen (but somewhat lower res). allan