From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OszKK-0005AN-6P for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:39:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 034F6E0A8A; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (SMTP.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.80.33]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFB7E0A8A for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ajglap.localdomain (ool-4a59b202.dyn.optonline.net [74.89.178.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o87EcRlt025254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ajglap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1502) id 14D1270061; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:38:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Gottlieb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo References: <201009052125.17134.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201009060816.53091.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:38:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Grant Edwards's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:04:02 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archives-Salt: 55158ea2-49b9-4a18-92d5-43cfaff7dcb6 X-Archives-Hash: 51b99d7b1748847194ad06001c3d2cca Grant Edwards writes: > On 2010-09-06, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> Grant Edwards writes: >> >>> For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall >>> display (prefereably at least 9-10") without having to increase the >>> width beyond what a standard "laptop" style keyboard takes up (about >>> 12-13 inches). >> >> It is certainly true that, if the height of the display is the key >> factor and hence fixed, a wider screen will add more inches (I again >> assume square pixels). >> >> However, those extra inches and resulting extra pixels are far from >> useless. > > I'm not saying that a wide display is useless. When it comes to > desktop displays bigger is always better (in either axis). > > I'm saying I don't want to have to haul around a laptop thats 18" wide > so that I can have a display that's tall enough to comfortably edit > code on. OK if you don't edit code on your laptop. >> I believe you are selling "two up" short. > > No, I'm not. Two up is great on a desktop, where the extra width and > weight aren't a penalty. Laptop size and weight are indeed a penalty. But you should assume that even on a laptop, common usage for some is to have 2-up either for code or course development >> When I am preparing a course, I have the html up in one (emacs) >> window and the resulting web page in another (firefox) window >> immediately to its right. Heck I very much use and enjoy 3-up on my >> large (30" 2560x1600) monitor. > > We're talking about laptops. How would you like hauling around a 30" > wide laptop? The first sentence was about 2-up and hence appropriate for laptops, indeed for my very own laptop that I bring to NYU every day I teach. My comment about the big monitor was to show that even 3-up is useful. I don't see where I suggested that 3-up would be available for laptops. Summary: 1. Extra width for 2-up is for me *very* useful in a laptop. 2. Specious arguments from a salesperson occur for all choices so don't seem to be a good criterion. allan