From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4572138359 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 01:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7D11E08CA; Thu, 7 May 2020 01:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-40140.protonmail.ch (mail-40140.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68007E08B1 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 01:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 01:13:48 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1588814029; bh=r504Fe9lW1+Cf5L1fUKZpMmwZ+Jtx/Gx6D9y6Xii8OY=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=mLE7JeTGuvKxxaPc5f+dtyoCWP2eBmVdNiXT1hSfbrSyadCUwzFC5BvEu1baTCUn/ NxlPNn6UQmz823k55+Pr1or5JbZuzI0KLk2yUu1wUe2qDfyEYyvQGgtPQA5CDCQNFS CFqgAaa5Bk8MOUgtTkT7a+xUFxuv48HA2gXFL2jY= To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" From: Caveman Al Toraboran Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <18ef0b9b-97b8-54e2-4c0e-966ab2099c69@gentoo.org> References: <20200421165803.GB187193@redacted> <11506562.O9o76ZdvQC@peak> <20200421190145.GF187193@redacted> <20200422161455.GA23147@legohost> <18ef0b9b-97b8-54e2-4c0e-966ab2099c69@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Archives-Salt: c6acd20e-70ac-4620-86da-abf78979447f X-Archives-Hash: ba777cb3cd99139b3dc52f29d46f460a On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:28 PM, Michael Orlitzky wro= te: > On 4/22/20 12:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > On a source-based distribution, the thing that manages package > > installations can break itself if it incorrectly installs a library tha= t > > a subsequent run of itself would dynamically link against. > > I won't say this is impossible, but in general it hasn't been true for a > long time in Gentoo. Old libraries are left behind until you rebuild the > things that link against them (that's what emerge @preserved-rebuild > does). When used correctly, subslot dependencies in ebuilds avoid the > need for even that additional step. just to say that some portagy thing (layman) can't work now as emerge was rebuilding packages to remove python3_6): running "layman -S"... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python-exec/python3.6/layman", line 36, in from layman.cli import Main File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/layman/cli.py", line 29, in = from layman.api import LaymanAPI File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/layman/api.py", line 25, in = from layman.remotedb import RemoteDB File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/layman/remotedb.py", line 46= , in from sslfetch.connections import Connector ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sslfetch' obviously solvable easily in this case, but imo needless drama keeps coming every now and then. imo we've also became pythonupgradophobic. every python upgrade becomes after a warning from eselect news. i look forward the day when all portagy things get treated similar to busybox (i.e. come with "static" USE flag by default). that said, gentoo is still the best distro imo. so it shall remain accursed by immortality in the realm of undeads.