From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:18:03 -0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vp2teb$99t$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Z7TbKz3SlKCeLRul@ca.inter.net
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>> I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside.
>> This may not be as compact and not as cheap,
>> but they are much much much faster and probably longer-lasting
>> than any USB stick, because their flash controllers are more sophisticated
>> and the parts of higher fidelity. A not-too-cheap NVMe will do fine,
>> as long as it’s TLC, not QLC flash.
>
> Can you explain this -- TLC/QLC -- in more detail ?
Tri-Level Cells, Quad-Level Cells.
SLC (single-level cells)
Each "cell" consists of a capacitor (constructed as a FET with an
isolated-gate). In the old days, the capacitor was either chared or
not: two levels. One bit per cell. Easy to make and reliable. If
you want more bits, layout more cells. That means larger dies, which
means more money.
MLC (two-level cells)
OK, let's also do four different charge levels! You get _two_ bits
per cell with the same area of silicon. Harder to do and not quite as
reliable, so we'll add a few extra blocks of cells and make software
deal with blocks that don't work.
TLC (tri-level cells)
Hey, what if we do 8 different charge levels! Now you get 4 bits per
cell. Even harder to do, even less reliable...
QLC (quad-level cells)
[I think you see where this is going]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-18 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-15 7:41 [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick Philip Webb
2025-02-15 11:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2025-02-15 13:31 ` Michael
2025-02-16 2:37 ` Philip Webb
2025-02-16 9:08 ` Nuno Silva
2025-02-16 13:41 ` Michael
2025-02-16 14:48 ` Wols Lists
2025-02-17 23:12 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-18 11:53 ` Michael
2025-02-19 12:10 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20 9:58 ` Michael
2025-02-16 22:57 ` [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : more info Philip Webb
2025-02-17 0:17 ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2025-02-17 0:39 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael
2025-02-17 3:43 ` Philip Webb
2025-02-17 9:18 ` Philip Webb
2025-02-17 12:02 ` Michael
2025-02-17 16:33 ` Stroller
2025-02-17 16:19 ` Wols Lists
2025-02-17 17:16 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2025-02-17 18:12 ` Michael
2025-02-18 3:46 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3 Philip Webb
2025-02-18 4:43 ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 5:53 ` Philip Webb
2025-02-18 9:13 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-18 19:10 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives Philip Webb
2025-02-18 21:18 ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2025-02-18 23:25 ` Michael
2025-02-19 12:16 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-19 12:20 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20 10:47 ` Michael
2025-02-18 14:40 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3 Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 17:00 ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 11:57 ` Michael
2025-02-18 18:54 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted Philip Webb
2025-02-18 23:13 ` Michael
2025-02-19 0:47 ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-19 1:12 ` [gentoo-user] alternatives to USB sticks for reliable archiving Philip Webb
2025-02-19 2:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2025-02-19 9:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael
2025-02-19 3:00 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted eric
2025-02-20 18:18 ` Dale
2025-02-20 22:40 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20 23:43 ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-21 8:10 ` Dale
2025-03-08 22:09 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-03-08 22:48 ` Dale
2025-03-09 10:31 ` Michael
2025-03-10 3:32 ` Dale
2025-03-10 13:01 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-17 16:38 ` [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick Stroller
2025-02-17 23:06 ` Frank Steinmetzger
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