From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C76158041 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 503D7E2A43; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F045E2A39 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rdGt4-0003qY-Go for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:45:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:45:44 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply X-Archives-Salt: 9037a52f-d2fc-4719-8ca7-ba9c0501e580 X-Archives-Hash: e63213a9ff811145d2cb2b46f7bdbea2 On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 19:17, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> However, the choice to install bootloaders in partitions instead of >> the MBR has been removed from most (all?) of the common installers. >> This forces me to jump through hoops when installing a new Linux >> distro: > > File a bug! LOL, good one! As if a normal person filing a bug with RedHat or Ubuntu actually accomplishes anything. I'll tell them to make systemd optional while I'm at it. > If that's true, it basically borks any sort of dual boot, unusual disk > layout, whatever. Yep, it does. The answer from is: You should really just (shut up and) install 's (obviously superior) bootloader in the MBR. It will auto-detect (some of) the other already installed (obviously inferior) OSes, and will add (some subset of) them to the boot menu that will (sometimes) allow you to boot them (maybe -- if you kneel, bow your head and ask nicely). > Last time I installed SUSE, it trashed my boot totally because it > didn't recognise my disk stack, failed to load necessary drivers, > and worse trashed my gentoo boot too... > > Cue one big rescue job to get the system up and working again. At > least it was only the boot that was trashed. I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name in the boot slots stored in NVM. And then the boot choice order changes (though it may not be apparent to the naked eye) when one of the distros decides to update/reinstall its boot stuff. -- Grant