From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78B0C158020 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85F12E0A03; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41369E0788 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oxBHl-0004KH-15 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 19:12:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:12:41 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <3418bb3d-f939-6606-7e19-5e883c198208@gmail.com> <2206572.iZASKD2KPV@lenovo.localdomain> <3705441.kQq0lBPeGt@lenovo.localdomain> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply X-Archives-Salt: f3f315de-ed26-4fdd-bbd4-b25ba9369e93 X-Archives-Hash: fa82f146a314c900da5a7425760bd89a On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: >> > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: >> > >> >> I did have to give up the option of having multiple X11 >> >> screens. The proprietary NVidia driver supported multiple screens, >> >> but the drivers for built-in Intel and Radeon drivers don't seem >> >> to. >> > >> > AMD APUs with embedded radeon graphics work fine here with two >> > monitors (DVI + HDMI ports). >> >> Yes, multiple montors work fine with both Intel and Radeon embedded >> graphics with Xorg drivers. >> >> It's multiple X11 screens that isn't supported. An X11 screen is the >> entity that's managed by single window manager and comprises what's >> usually called "a desktop". A screen can include multiple monitors. >> >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/multihead#Separate_screens > > You're right, I thought you meant two different monitors in Xinerama > style. I didn't know anyone who still uses separate displays > (screens) these days. I found it very helpful when I dealing with interruptions (which is about 50% of a typical day). I could flip one of the screens to a new virtual desktop (while leaving my email and web browser as-is on the other screen), deal with the interruption, then flip that screen back to the desktop containing whatever I was origininally working on. My office setup had three screens, each with four virtual desktops. When using multiple screens, you develop the habit of using one screen for common, always-on stuff (e.g. email, web browser) and the other screen(s) for working on code (or whatever). There are two main drawbacks to the multiple-screen setup: * You can't drag a window from one screen to the other. With the monitor sizes that are common now, that's not as big an annoyance as it used to be. * There are a few brain-dead (but vital) applications (e.g. Chrome) that refuse to allow a user to run either multiple instances of the application or allow windows on multiple screens (or X servers). I'm a bit baffled by that restriction, but I'm sure it allowed the developers to take some shortcut that saved 12 bytes of data and 10 or 15 lines of code (out of many hundreds of megabytes of occupied RAM and millions lines of code). That said, you're right: using mulitple screens is no longer common. It's not even supported by many desktops these days. I switched from XFCE to openbox when XFCE dropped support for multiple screens. -- Grant