From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-185425-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B702138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7375CE0C24; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blaine.gmane.org (unknown [195.159.176.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB3DE0C01 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <lnx-gentoo-user@m.gmane.org>) id 1gO9Zk-0008FI-9P for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:00:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: AMD lappy Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <psq6i6$uea$1@blaine.gmane.org> References: <243389de-ab1a-545e-d61b-fd8f3424bf87@verizon.net> <pspied$he6$1@blaine.gmane.org> <59b6d447-8e80-5dc6-7ba8-6e0549b695c3@verizon.net> <pspvnn$bsp$1@blaine.gmane.org> <76573b02-0f65-5480-9782-85771c41c216@verizon.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 0088f898-dae1-47ee-b59f-abcfb2a6bcdc X-Archives-Hash: 826a908c96e5dbfcc8d494125698effc On 2018-11-17, james <garftd@verizon.net> wrote: > On 11/17/18 4:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2018-11-17, james <garftd@verizon.net> wrote: >>> On 11/17/18 12:17 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>>> On 2018-11-17, james <garftd@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's time for the old man to get a new portable. >>>> >>>>> Arm processor, >>>> >>>> That's going to be tough. The only ones I've ever heard of are >>>> Chromebooks. >>> >>> Dell is on the move, but what I found (looking for old link now) >>> had a mechanical HD with no SSD upgrade option; everthing else was fine. >>> >>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/enabling-today-inspiring-tomorrow/ab/enabling-today-inspiring-tomorrow >> >>> >>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-17-5000/spd/inspiron-17-5775-laptop/dncwlgamd7005h >> >> Not an Arm processor. >> >> Or do you mean AMD? > > Actually and AMD Arm (64bit) Ryzen or newer. No, Ryzen is not an Arm processor. The Ryzen's architecture is AMD64 (AKA x64, or x86-64). It's the old Intel IA32 architecture (which dates back to the 80386) extended to be 64-bits wide. Read the section on "Instruction set": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen If you want an Arm laptop, you pretty much have to by a Chromebook. AMD did have the "Opteron A" processor which included an Arm Cortex-A57 core, but that was aimed at the blade-server market, and I think it was discontinued... -- Grant