From: "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger.hoffstaette@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 10:42:03 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2015.03.30.10.42.03@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 55192205.4060702@gmail.com
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:14:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> OK, then so why do I have to edit files to tell the system to USE this
>> and that after the system tells me it needs that ... ?
>>
>> Why isn't this taken care of within portage itself?
>>
>> I don't *want* to decide 32bit or not ... (I like that I *can* ...)
>>
>> I want a (mostly) stable and current linux system with the necessary
>> choices done by the maintainers ... if Skype needs it ... ok, then make
>> that a dependency/requirement somewhere ... but why force me to set that
>> (for so many packages) ?
>
> OK, think it through first.
Sure thing.
> You want skype. Skype is 32bit. So far, we're good. You put an entry in
> package.use to enable abi_x86_32 for skype.
Except..at that point you would have already failed.
There is no good reason whatsoever why portage shouldn't be able to treat
this like a transitive required USE flag requirement, percolating through
all libs from the toplevel requirement's dependency tree.
In fact it should do so automatically when the ebuild declares the abi_x86_32
constraint from the start, without requiring the user to do anything.
There are other reasons why coupling the native and 32-bit worlds together is
a bad idea in the long-term, regardless of understandable technical reasons
and good intentions.
So yeah: think it through first.
-h
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-29 9:58 [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib" Yanestra
2015-03-29 12:39 ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 15:03 ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 15:20 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 15:57 ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:08 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 16:21 ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:43 ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 16:58 ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:22 ` wabenbau
2015-03-30 8:57 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 17:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Palimaka
2015-03-29 18:03 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 18:23 ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 17:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 17:30 ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 18:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 22:10 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 22:39 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 22:51 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 8:58 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30 9:23 ` Mick
2015-03-30 9:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:02 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:42 ` Holger Hoffstätte [this message]
2015-03-30 11:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 12:15 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 12:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:04 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 14:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 15:15 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 19:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 19:44 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-03-30 19:52 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 18:20 ` Chris Camisa
2015-03-30 19:46 ` Grant Edwards
2015-03-30 20:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 20:39 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 17:28 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 4:42 ` Sebastian Beßler
2015-04-02 5:21 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 8:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02 9:29 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 10:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02 15:37 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-02 16:24 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-03 8:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2015-04-03 8:30 ` Dale
2015-04-04 9:39 ` Stroller
2015-04-04 12:33 ` Dale
2015-04-04 22:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 7:24 ` Dale
2015-04-05 9:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 9:41 ` Dale
2015-04-05 12:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 13:27 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 13:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 11:21 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 12:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 20:18 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-06 8:39 ` [gentoo-user] " Graham Murray
2015-04-04 22:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03 7:52 ` Stroller
2015-04-05 21:36 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-04-02 10:40 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2015-03-30 10:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2015-04-01 17:50 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-01 18:05 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02 5:27 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 8:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:57 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02 22:40 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:08 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:25 ` Mick
2015-04-03 7:57 ` Stroller
2015-03-30 9:12 ` Dale
2015-03-30 10:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:59 ` Dale
2015-03-30 12:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:01 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 13:42 ` Dale
2015-03-30 14:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31 0:46 ` Dale
2015-03-31 7:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31 10:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 20:01 ` Gevisz
2015-03-29 18:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 9:12 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 22:23 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-02 9:31 ` Peter Humphrey
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