* [gentoo-user] XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
@ 2005-12-29 18:53 Grant
2005-12-29 18:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2005-12-29 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo mailing list
I've only used xfce4 on my Gentoo system and I've decided to give kde
a try. I love the minimalist approach of xfce, but it would be nice
to have more features. We'll see.
I use -* in make.conf and I've carefully added only the local and
global flags I know I'll use for the packages about to be installed
with kde. This has resulted in the exclusion of many audio, video,
and graphics formats. Let me know if any of you Gentoo/kde users can
recommend any particular USE flags for the KDE dependency tree. I
want to give kde a fair evaluation so I don't want to cripple it, but
I also don't want to load up a bunch of stuff I won't use. Thanks for
any advice!
- Grant
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* [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 18:53 [gentoo-user] XFCE user taking KDE for a spin Grant
@ 2005-12-29 18:55 ` Grant
2005-12-29 19:00 ` Peter
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2005-12-29 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo mailing list
> I've only used xfce4 on my Gentoo system and I've decided to give kde
> a try. I love the minimalist approach of xfce, but it would be nice
> to have more features. We'll see.
>
> I use -* in make.conf and I've carefully added only the local and
> global flags I know I'll use for the packages about to be installed
> with kde. This has resulted in the exclusion of many audio, video,
> and graphics formats. Let me know if any of you Gentoo/kde users can
> recommend any particular USE flags for the KDE dependency tree. I
> want to give kde a fair evaluation so I don't want to cripple it, but
> I also don't want to load up a bunch of stuff I won't use. Thanks for
> any advice!
>
> - Grant
More info:
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20 -authdaemond -berkdb -gdbm
+java -kerberos -ldap -mysql +pam -postgres +ssl -static 1,733 kB
[ebuild N ] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15 -doc -emacs +java -nls 1,925 kB
[ebuild N ] net-misc/mDNSResponder-98 1,337 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 +alsa -arts +cups -debug -doc
+jpeg2k +kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama
+zeroconf 16,482 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/gd-2.0.33 -fontconfig +jpeg +png +truetype
-xpm 573 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/cgilib-0.5 13 kB
[ebuild N ] net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.2.6-r1 -doc +perl -tcltk 851 kB
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.2 +sensord 840 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 0 kB
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r2 -nls 58 kB
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.7-r2 -debug -doc -livecd +pcmcia 1,317 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1 -arts +cups -debug +hal
-ieee1394 +java +kdeenablefinal -ldap +lm_sensors -logitech-mouse
-openexr +opengl +pam -samba +ssl -xinerama 21,908 kB
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/xloadimage-4.1-r4 +jpeg +png +tiff 622 kB
[ebuild N ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 +X +bzip2 +caps -curl -ecc
-idea -ldap -nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard -static -usb +zlib
2,823 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/pth-1.4.0 434 kB
[ebuild N ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 814 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 -arts +crypt -debug -gnokii
+kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 11,061 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
-xinerama 9,192 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug
+kdeenablefinal +opengl -xinerama +xscreensaver 17,600 kB
[ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r2 +ssl 29 kB
[ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-tls-1.0-r2 22 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SSLeay-1.25 75 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-0.96 31 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug
+kdeenablefinal -rdesktop -slp +ssl +wifi -xinerama -xmms 7,192 kB
[ebuild N ] sys-libs/libieee1284-0.2.1 -doc 178 kB
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.15 -gphoto2 -ipv6 -usb 3,156 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r3 -arts -debug -gphoto2
+imlib +kdeenablefinal -nodrm -openexr +opengl -povray +scanner -tetex
-xinerama 6,400 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
-xinerama 3,093 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 -arts +crypt -debug
+kdeenablefinal (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama 2,204 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1 -arts -debug -doc
+kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 5,804 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b -debug 490 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/musicbrainz-2.1.1 515 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/tunepimp-0.3.0-r1 -flac +mp3 +perl +python
+readline -vorbis 512 kB
[ebuild N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.0.1-r2 -3dnow (-altivec) +mpi +sse
+sse2 1,900 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1.1-r1 -sndfile -static 683 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 113 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 +alsa -arts -audiofile
-debug -encode -flac -gstreamer -jack +kdeenablefinal +mp3
+musicbrainz -speex -theora -vorbis -xine -xinerama 5,366 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 -arts -berkdb -debug
+kdeenablefinal +sdl -xinerama -xmms 1,555 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 -arts -debug
+kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -xinerama 23,421 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
-xinerama 1,484 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-3.4.3 -accessibility 0 kB
- Grant
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* [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 18:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
@ 2005-12-29 19:00 ` Peter
2005-12-29 19:19 ` Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peter @ 2005-12-29 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:55:05 -0800, Grant wrote:
>> I've only used xfce4 on my Gentoo system and I've decided to give kde a
>> try. I love the minimalist approach of xfce, but it would be nice to
>> have more features. We'll see.
>>
>> I use -* in make.conf and I've carefully added only the local and global
>> flags I know I'll use for the packages about to be installed with kde.
>> This has resulted in the exclusion of many audio, video, and graphics
>> formats. Let me know if any of you Gentoo/kde users can recommend any
>> particular USE flags for the KDE dependency tree. I want to give kde a
>> fair evaluation so I don't want to cripple it, but I also don't want to
>> load up a bunch of stuff I won't use. Thanks for any advice!
>>
>> - Grant
>
> More info:
>
> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20 -authdaemond -berkdb -gdbm
> +java -kerberos -ldap -mysql +pam -postgres +ssl -static 1,733 kB [ebuild
> N ] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15 -doc -emacs +java -nls 1,925 kB [ebuild N
> ] net-misc/mDNSResponder-98 1,337 kB [ebuild N ]
> kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 +alsa
> -arts +cups -debug -doc +jpeg2k +kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell
> +ssl +tiff -xinerama +zeroconf 16,482 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-libs/gd-2.0.33 -fontconfig +jpeg +png +truetype
> -xpm 573 kB
> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/cgilib-0.5 13 kB [ebuild N ]
> net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.2.6-r1 -doc +perl -tcltk 851 kB [ebuild N ]
> sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.2 +sensord 840 kB [ebuild N ]
> kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r2
> -nls 58 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.7-r2 -debug -doc -livecd
> +pcmcia 1,317 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1 -arts +cups
> -debug +hal -ieee1394 +java +kdeenablefinal -ldap +lm_sensors
> -logitech-mouse -openexr +opengl +pam -samba +ssl -xinerama 21,908 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/xloadimage-4.1-r4 +jpeg +png +tiff 622 kB
> [ebuild N ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 +X +bzip2 +caps -curl -ecc -idea
> -ldap -nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard -static -usb +zlib 2,823 kB
> [ebuild N ] dev-libs/pth-1.4.0 434 kB [ebuild N ]
> app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 814 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 -arts
> +crypt -debug -gnokii +kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 11,061 kB [ebuild N
> ] kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -xinerama 9,192
> kB
> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
> +opengl -xinerama +xscreensaver 17,600 kB [ebuild N ]
> app-crypt/qca-1.0-r2 +ssl 29 kB [ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-tls-1.0-r2
> 22 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SSLeay-1.25 75 kB [ebuild N ]
> dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-0.96 31 kB [ebuild N ]
> kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -rdesktop -slp
> +ssl +wifi -xinerama -xmms 7,192 kB [ebuild N ]
> sys-libs/libieee1284-0.2.1 -doc 178 kB [ebuild N ]
> media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.15 -gphoto2 -ipv6 -usb 3,156 kB [ebuild N
> ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r3 -arts -debug -gphoto2 +imlib
> +kdeenablefinal -nodrm -openexr +opengl -povray +scanner -tetex -xinerama
> 6,400 kB
> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
> -xinerama 3,093 kB
> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 -arts +crypt -debug
> +kdeenablefinal (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama 2,204 kB [ebuild N ]
> kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1 -arts -debug -doc +kdeenablefinal -tidy
> -xinerama 5,804 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b -debug 490
> kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/musicbrainz-2.1.1 515 kB [ebuild N ]
> media-libs/tunepimp-0.3.0-r1 -flac +mp3 +perl +python +readline -vorbis
> 512 kB
> [ebuild N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.0.1-r2 -3dnow (-altivec) +mpi +sse +sse2
> 1,900 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1.1-r1 -sndfile -static 683 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 113 kB [ebuild N ]
> kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 +alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -encode -flac
> -gstreamer -jack +kdeenablefinal +mp3 +musicbrainz -speex -theora -vorbis
> -xine -xinerama 5,366 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 -arts
> -berkdb -debug +kdeenablefinal +sdl -xinerama -xmms 1,555 kB [ebuild N
> ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting
> -xinerama 23,421 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 -arts -debug
> +kdeenablefinal -xinerama 1,484 kB
> [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-3.4.3 -accessibility 0 kB
>
> - Grant
Why not just run it from livecd? Save yourself the hassle. Why on earth do
you use -* in make.conf? for KEYWORDS? don;t do that!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 19:00 ` Peter
@ 2005-12-29 19:19 ` Grant
2005-12-29 19:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Peter
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2005-12-29 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> >> I've only used xfce4 on my Gentoo system and I've decided to give kde a
> >> try. I love the minimalist approach of xfce, but it would be nice to
> >> have more features. We'll see.
> >>
> >> I use -* in make.conf and I've carefully added only the local and global
> >> flags I know I'll use for the packages about to be installed with kde.
> >> This has resulted in the exclusion of many audio, video, and graphics
> >> formats. Let me know if any of you Gentoo/kde users can recommend any
> >> particular USE flags for the KDE dependency tree. I want to give kde a
> >> fair evaluation so I don't want to cripple it, but I also don't want to
> >> load up a bunch of stuff I won't use. Thanks for any advice!
> >>
> >> - Grant
> >
> > More info:
> >
> > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20 -authdaemond -berkdb -gdbm
> > +java -kerberos -ldap -mysql +pam -postgres +ssl -static 1,733 kB [ebuild
> > N ] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15 -doc -emacs +java -nls 1,925 kB [ebuild N
> > ] net-misc/mDNSResponder-98 1,337 kB [ebuild N ]
> > kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 +alsa
> > -arts +cups -debug -doc +jpeg2k +kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell
> > +ssl +tiff -xinerama +zeroconf 16,482 kB
> > [ebuild N ] media-libs/gd-2.0.33 -fontconfig +jpeg +png +truetype
> > -xpm 573 kB
> > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/cgilib-0.5 13 kB [ebuild N ]
> > net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.2.6-r1 -doc +perl -tcltk 851 kB [ebuild N ]
> > sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.2 +sensord 840 kB [ebuild N ]
> > kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r2
> > -nls 58 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.7-r2 -debug -doc -livecd
> > +pcmcia 1,317 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1 -arts +cups
> > -debug +hal -ieee1394 +java +kdeenablefinal -ldap +lm_sensors
> > -logitech-mouse -openexr +opengl +pam -samba +ssl -xinerama 21,908 kB
> > [ebuild N ] media-gfx/xloadimage-4.1-r4 +jpeg +png +tiff 622 kB
> > [ebuild N ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 +X +bzip2 +caps -curl -ecc -idea
> > -ldap -nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard -static -usb +zlib 2,823 kB
> > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/pth-1.4.0 434 kB [ebuild N ]
> > app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 814 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 -arts
> > +crypt -debug -gnokii +kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 11,061 kB [ebuild N
> > ] kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -xinerama 9,192
> > kB
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
> > +opengl -xinerama +xscreensaver 17,600 kB [ebuild N ]
> > app-crypt/qca-1.0-r2 +ssl 29 kB [ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-tls-1.0-r2
> > 22 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-SSLeay-1.25 75 kB [ebuild N ]
> > dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-0.96 31 kB [ebuild N ]
> > kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -rdesktop -slp
> > +ssl +wifi -xinerama -xmms 7,192 kB [ebuild N ]
> > sys-libs/libieee1284-0.2.1 -doc 178 kB [ebuild N ]
> > media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.15 -gphoto2 -ipv6 -usb 3,156 kB [ebuild N
> > ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r3 -arts -debug -gphoto2 +imlib
> > +kdeenablefinal -nodrm -openexr +opengl -povray +scanner -tetex -xinerama
> > 6,400 kB
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
> > -xinerama 3,093 kB
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 -arts +crypt -debug
> > +kdeenablefinal (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama 2,204 kB [ebuild N ]
> > kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1 -arts -debug -doc +kdeenablefinal -tidy
> > -xinerama 5,804 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b -debug 490
> > kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/musicbrainz-2.1.1 515 kB [ebuild N ]
> > media-libs/tunepimp-0.3.0-r1 -flac +mp3 +perl +python +readline -vorbis
> > 512 kB
> > [ebuild N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.0.1-r2 -3dnow (-altivec) +mpi +sse +sse2
> > 1,900 kB
> > [ebuild N ] media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1.1-r1 -sndfile -static 683 kB
> > [ebuild N ] media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 113 kB [ebuild N ]
> > kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 +alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -encode -flac
> > -gstreamer -jack +kdeenablefinal +mp3 +musicbrainz -speex -theora -vorbis
> > -xine -xinerama 5,366 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 -arts
> > -berkdb -debug +kdeenablefinal +sdl -xinerama -xmms 1,555 kB [ebuild N
> > ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 -arts -debug +kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting
> > -xinerama 23,421 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 -arts -debug
> > +kdeenablefinal -xinerama 1,484 kB
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-3.4.3 -accessibility 0 kB
> >
> > - Grant
>
> Why not just run it from livecd? Save yourself the hassle. Why on earth do
> you use -* in make.conf? for KEYWORDS? don;t do that!
Why not use -* for KEYWORDS? I always do a pretend emerge before a
real one and I research each new USE flag I see and add it if I think
it's necessary/useful.
- Grant
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 19:19 ` Grant
@ 2005-12-29 19:41 ` Peter
2005-12-29 22:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Peper
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peter @ 2005-12-29 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:19:26 -0800, Grant wrote:
>> Why not just run it from livecd? Save yourself the hassle. Why on earth
>> do you use -* in make.conf? for KEYWORDS? don;t do that!
>
> Why not use -* for KEYWORDS? I always do a pretend emerge before a real
> one and I research each new USE flag I see and add it if I think it's
> necessary/useful.
>
> - Grant
-* are masked for all archs. This is experimental beyond ~*. Furthermore,
you should at least specify your particular arch, like x86, amd64, ppc.
Many applications don't even use a -* arch so you will be missing a whole
bunch of stuff.
A better way to handle this is to use the package.keywords file and add to
it any experimental ebuilds you want.
man emerge will give you more information.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 19:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Peter
@ 2005-12-29 22:11 ` Peper
2005-12-30 5:34 ` Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peper @ 2005-12-29 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> -* are masked for all archs. This is experimental beyond ~*. Furthermore,
> you should at least specify your particular arch, like x86, amd64, ppc.
> Many applications don't even use a -* arch so you will be missing a whole
> bunch of stuff.
>
> A better way to handle this is to use the package.keywords file and add to
> it any experimental ebuilds you want.
>
> man emerge will give you more information.
I think he meant -* in USE and then adding some flags:
for ex. USE="-* kde"
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-29 22:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Peper
@ 2005-12-30 5:34 ` Grant
2005-12-30 11:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Peter
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2005-12-30 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> > -* are masked for all archs. This is experimental beyond ~*. Furthermore,
> > you should at least specify your particular arch, like x86, amd64, ppc.
> > Many applications don't even use a -* arch so you will be missing a whole
> > bunch of stuff.
> >
> > A better way to handle this is to use the package.keywords file and add to
> > it any experimental ebuilds you want.
> >
> > man emerge will give you more information.
>
> I think he meant -* in USE and then adding some flags:
> for ex. USE="-* kde"
That's exactly what I meant. Sorry about that.
> Peper
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Re: XFCE user taking KDE for a spin
2005-12-30 5:34 ` Grant
@ 2005-12-30 11:29 ` Peter
2005-12-30 16:36 ` Grant
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Peter @ 2005-12-30 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:34:06 -0800, Grant wrote:
>> > -* are masked for all archs. This is experimental beyond ~*.
>> > Furthermore, you should at least specify your particular arch, like
>> > x86, amd64, ppc. Many applications don't even use a -* arch so you
>> > will be missing a whole bunch of stuff.
>> >
>> > A better way to handle this is to use the package.keywords file and
>> > add to it any experimental ebuilds you want.
>> >
>> > man emerge will give you more information.
>>
>> I think he meant -* in USE and then adding some flags: for ex. USE="-*
>> kde"
>
> That's exactly what I meant. Sorry about that.
>
OOPS! My bad. The only negative that I can see is that there are dozens of
valid use flags, many of which _could_ affect functionality. I still say,
save your time, use a live cd or precompiled binaries while evaluating.
OTOH, you can get the best of both worlds by using select KDE applications
in XFCE. My personal combination is Enlightenment with Rox handling the
panel and desktop. Then I use Kopete (IM client), Kgpg (gnupg frontend)
that sit in a systray. Then khelpcenter which gives a nice view of all man
and info pages. kinfocenter (sysinfo), Cervisia for cvs, and kdesu (su
client). Those I use every day. However, I still keep the entire KDE
system compiled. This is because I had kde on before everything else. I'm
still not a big fan of the split ebuilds, and usually compile the whole
suite when updates come out.
KDE _is_ big though, and because of the way it stores (or Gentoo stores)
.desktop and icon files, sort of breaks freedesktop.org standards. Getting
a compliant menu program to accept kde apps requires a little elbow
grease! I basically had to symlink lots of app stuff to my ~.local/share
area.
Good luck
>> Peper
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2005-12-30 11:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Peter
@ 2005-12-30 16:36 ` Grant
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> >> > -* are masked for all archs. This is experimental beyond ~*.
> >> > Furthermore, you should at least specify your particular arch, like
> >> > x86, amd64, ppc. Many applications don't even use a -* arch so you
> >> > will be missing a whole bunch of stuff.
> >> >
> >> > A better way to handle this is to use the package.keywords file and
> >> > add to it any experimental ebuilds you want.
> >> >
> >> > man emerge will give you more information.
> >>
> >> I think he meant -* in USE and then adding some flags: for ex. USE="-*
> >> kde"
> >
> > That's exactly what I meant. Sorry about that.
> >
>
> OOPS! My bad. The only negative that I can see is that there are dozens of
> valid use flags, many of which _could_ affect functionality. I still say,
> save your time, use a live cd or precompiled binaries while evaluating.
>
> OTOH, you can get the best of both worlds by using select KDE applications
> in XFCE. My personal combination is Enlightenment with Rox handling the
> panel and desktop. Then I use Kopete (IM client), Kgpg (gnupg frontend)
> that sit in a systray. Then khelpcenter which gives a nice view of all man
> and info pages. kinfocenter (sysinfo), Cervisia for cvs, and kdesu (su
> client). Those I use every day. However, I still keep the entire KDE
> system compiled. This is because I had kde on before everything else. I'm
> still not a big fan of the split ebuilds, and usually compile the whole
> suite when updates come out.
>
> KDE _is_ big though, and because of the way it stores (or Gentoo stores)
> .desktop and icon files, sort of breaks freedesktop.org standards. Getting
> a compliant menu program to accept kde apps requires a little elbow
> grease! I basically had to symlink lots of app stuff to my ~.local/share
> area.
>
> Good luck
>
> >> Peper
Wow, what a waste of time. I don't like kde at all. Anyway, the
xfce4 fonts are now all screwed up. They basically look really ragged
like they aren't anti-aliased. I haven't touched any xfce settings,
only kde stuff. The xfce4 settings still look like they're set
correctly. I do use the xfs font server and it is running. Any idea
how to fix this?
Also, I do like how the kde file manager previews all images. Is
there any way to get the xfce4 file manager (xffm) to do that?
- Grant
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