From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfhqc-0005m3-I6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:49:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD926E0A00; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0A7E0A00 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so447259ewy.10 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:48:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:to:subject :references:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Ndizd4p/69wt0vd2adMs/VxmX0RFrEHM4Wd0n7NvT7E=; b=gok7h94Z3ufxJSrnKOs0Map9Ke8wUGsr7O5UxeuxYwW/i1mNMh3rXxiz9qQjkf1X+Z 0X048OwxJJswouA+t1hpTSkqOZ1nni9ym1douhi+ZFRXNV3H72kKGfwuv5qPCKZD1XAp O5sPWAIkTTFqnEJEGLue3dPQWi34cNns744QA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=cojEhF9a+IBBeDjT0PzGszvM1cUU89yOjAQHjxdUosfmnImyCCEs/FGtSDAIJLoUrb i5bJxifHmwfmYfId88FWGMEBN8ut3ujCrSNi29uKFYqU/abQMprt9Cn25QRoWHYG3kDE eaQ7pDmHi7//jhj0a5rryEkLOyf4ayPGn9Jb0= Received: by 10.213.43.81 with SMTP id v17mr482624ebe.0.1265928521918; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeerak (0110ds1-abc.0.fullrate.dk [90.185.49.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm6781144eya.35.2010.02.11.14.48.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:48:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <20100210141843.6777b7c7@digimed.co.uk> <20100211073121.GA14006@waltdnes.org> <201002111005.46531.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20100211223708.7a953916@digimed.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:47:39 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Zeerak Waseem" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100211223708.7a953916@digimed.co.uk> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: d7df9966-90ca-442a-9af8-5a840da46d3a X-Archives-Hash: 33a1383ba20ebb0f245a3ab21ceef7d0 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:37:08 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:40:37 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> True, but even those using Openbox, icewm, etc. were introduced to the >> mess that HAL is, and also to dbus. > > You're trying to assign guilt by association. They were also introduced > to X, hand edited conf files and a faster desktop. Are they all bad too? > > Yes! :p I'm not saying dbus is all that bad, just that it might be a bit unnecessary for a number of users. Which to me means, that it should be something that can be chosen, rather than something that's chosen for you. -- Zeerak