From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF1EC1382C5 for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 19:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45E83E09AD; Thu, 14 May 2020 19:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-40137.protonmail.ch (mail-40137.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B840EE0986 for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 19:13:32 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1589483619; bh=E6mAZBkRXiJCiOpSCPcIlfznnHKImzgvP5ouf92A5gI=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=DX5DCoFHx2uv9OR38P/YJcZOgjjkgTb0RMflMeRKkkl6BYHBORZFjLq3zJ5p6igw7 4fJ5caaB7dD2//AhBcZdTLOS6G7iZmKuKy0L7aLQja2tGc9jiylq/GCL8ow9933dwe 8woLTRSyNAmQNqxPY1iqWCsPXbAHqImBfyFD0wjI= To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" From: madscientistatlarge Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] a day of PAIN. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <7d66678f-0c3c-e816-2f99-fe0244cfc284.ref@verizon.net> <7d66678f-0c3c-e816-2f99-fe0244cfc284@verizon.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Archives-Salt: 24cd3980-7dbb-4b8f-b7c5-75d3c93dd5a4 X-Archives-Hash: 7f3443aaaef6458ab94fba0314a7345d I'm using a nearly 10 year old server, bought specifically so I can compile= faster. None of my machines is newer than that. None of my machines supp= ort UEFI other than an older imac. The server, which was inexpensive ($500= ) only has 48 cores, 64 as soon as I update the processors (2 generations n= ewer and more cores!). I love server grade hardware! Servers lose value quickly, they are a great= bargain if you don't mind the sound of a wind tunnel or have another room = to put it in. This machine was probably $20-30K new, no slouch, it was pre= viously used for high frequency trading. Sadly the seller does seem to hav= e emptied their' warehouse. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:50 AM, Andrew Udvare wrote= : > > On 2020-05-12, at 18:45, Alan Grimes ALONZOTG@verizon.net wrote: > > Why is this not a forced-on setting for any machine with UEFI enabled? = I > > can't imagine that this would be unacceptable for more than 0.001% of > > the install base. > > Because not every user has UEFI and many just use the BIOS compatibility = layer (CSM) if they don't care about UEFI and Secure Boot. The CSM is going= to be there for a very long time. > > If you don't need UEFI features, then there's nothing really wrong with u= sing CSM. I am using UEFI because I like having a signed kernel and signed = boot loader (systemd-boot). > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Andrew