* [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
@ 2010-05-06 14:31 Mark Knecht
2010-05-08 13:21 ` luis jure
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2010-05-06 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi,
Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
Thanks,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
2010-05-06 14:31 [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning? Mark Knecht
@ 2010-05-08 13:21 ` luis jure
2010-05-08 17:57 ` Mark Knecht
2010-05-09 14:08 ` pk
2010-05-10 7:33 ` Helmut Jarausch
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From: luis jure @ 2010-05-08 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
on 2010-05-06 at 07:31 Mark Knecht wrote:
> Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
>DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
>stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
i guess a general scientific tool like octave (a free alternative to
matlab, the de facto standard among scientists) would do all you may
possibly want to do, although learning the language might require some
time. i don't know of any "ready-to-go" tool for dsp where you just put
the coefficients and you get the poles, impulse and frequency response,
etc. i would be very interested if anyone knows such tool.
if you want to work with audio, you can easily program any filter in
csound or any other software synthesis language, like pd, common lisp
music or whatever (i know csound). then you can "see the results" using
an analyser/visualiser like sonic-visualiser, for example.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
2010-05-08 13:21 ` luis jure
@ 2010-05-08 17:57 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2010-05-08 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:21 AM, luis jure <ljc@internet.com.uy> wrote:
> on 2010-05-06 at 07:31 Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
>>DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
>>stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
>
> i guess a general scientific tool like octave (a free alternative to
> matlab, the de facto standard among scientists) would do all you may
> possibly want to do, although learning the language might require some
> time. i don't know of any "ready-to-go" tool for dsp where you just put
> the coefficients and you get the poles, impulse and frequency response,
> etc. i would be very interested if anyone knows such tool.
>
> if you want to work with audio, you can easily program any filter in
> csound or any other software synthesis language, like pd, common lisp
> music or whatever (i know csound). then you can "see the results" using
> an analyser/visualiser like sonic-visualiser, for example.
>
Hi Luis,
Thanks. Octave is something I'm looking at. It's clearly able to
model things like DSP filter response (both steady state as well as
impulse) but it doesn't seem like the right tool to actually learn
about doing DSP filter design.
Someone else on another list suggested Faust but it's apparently
squirreled away in yet another overlay so I haven't bothered to load
it yet.
It turns out for actual design just using the web might be one of
the better ways for me to go about this. There are lots of sites that
allow me to enter the characteristics I'm looking for and then give
back the results in z-transform, C code and other ways. Those look
fairly easy to transfer to code I can run.
I appreciate your ideas.
Cheers,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
2010-05-06 14:31 [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning? Mark Knecht
2010-05-08 13:21 ` luis jure
@ 2010-05-09 14:08 ` pk
2010-05-09 15:45 ` Mark Knecht
2010-05-10 7:33 ` Helmut Jarausch
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From: pk @ 2010-05-09 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2010-05-06 16:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
> DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
> stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
This probably doesn't answer your question completely (haven't tried it)
but...:
http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/intro.html
Best regards
Peter K
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
2010-05-09 14:08 ` pk
@ 2010-05-09 15:45 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2010-05-09 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:08 AM, pk <peterk2@coolmail.se> wrote:
> On 2010-05-06 16:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
>> DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
>> stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
>
> This probably doesn't answer your question completely (haven't tried it)
> but...:
> http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/intro.html
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter K
>
>
Hi Peter,
Yes, I've used Spice extensively in years past. Unless they've
added a lot of new stuff then it's mainly about analog design and not
digital signal processing but it could be useful for verifying that
the DSP version of a filter works like the analog version.
Thanks for the interest.
Cheers,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning?
2010-05-06 14:31 [gentoo-user] Open Source DSP tools for learning? Mark Knecht
2010-05-08 13:21 ` luis jure
2010-05-09 14:08 ` pk
@ 2010-05-10 7:33 ` Helmut Jarausch
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From: Helmut Jarausch @ 2010-05-10 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 6 May, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anyone possibly know of any tools in Open Source for exploring
> DSP filter design? Something that might allow me to write equations,
> stimulate the filter, see the results in a GUI?
>
Have a look at Scilab and Xcos (www.scilab.org)
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
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